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What Were Democrats Thinking With Their Latest Decision on 2024?
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| 02/05/2023
| Spencer Brown
Posted on 02/05/2023 9:11:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Back in December, Townhall reported on the Democratic National Committee's initial vote to upend its presidential primary schedule ahead of 2024, flipping the script on the normal order of states that's been in place for some five decades. Well, the DNC voted to formally approve the new schedule this week — but there's still an uncertain and rocky road ahead for Democrats due to state laws and other yet-to-be-fully-determined problems.
Hardest hit? Iowa, where their 2020 caucuses were something of an unmitigated disaster and the normal momentum the winning candidate can expect to ride into New Hampshire and beyond was nonexistent. In the wake of that mess, Iowa has been booted from its first-in-the-nation position and replaced with South Carolina.
After remaining mum on the issue of the 2024 calendar until the last minute, the DNC's new presidential primary plan was backed by President Joe Biden, making its passage something of a foregone conclusion after the initial Rules and Bylaws group passed the recommendation.
With its new first-in-the-nation status, South Carolina is supposed to hold its Democrat primary on February 3, 2024 — with New Hampshire and Nevada's primaries coming three days later on February 6, 2024. Also making moves to earlier dates are Michigan and Georgia, part of what the DNC has sold as a move to let a more diverse group of Americans make their voices heard earlier on in the presidential election cycle and see their votes count more toward choosing the eventual nominee.
Of course, the Democrats' 2024 presidential primary won't be much of a showdown if Biden decides to run for reelection and no fellow Democrats decide to challenge the president's renomination. Unless the DNC knows more about Biden's 2024 plans than he's told the American people, it's likely the schedule change is to have a trial run take place during a less-consequential presidential cycle for Democrats.
Democrats need to take advantage of that opportunity in a year they expect the stakes to be lower in the nominating process because even after being passed by the DNC, their new calendar isn't a done deal. Far from it, in fact.
Like many other centralized, top-down policies preferred by Democrats, their new calendar apparently failed to consider that there are state laws and other issues at play that, at present, mean their new primary schedule can't be followed.
New Hampshire's primary, for example, is required by state law to "be held on the second Tuesday in March or on a date selected by the secretary of state which is 7 days or more immediately preceding the date on which any other state shall hold a similar election." The Republicans who control the Granite State's government aren't inclined to change the primary date to accommodate Democrats because the Republican primary schedule for 2024 has not changed.
If New Hampshire's law isn't changed and the state Democrats don't figure out a creative solution to get around holding a primary, they're technically required to hold their primary at least one week before South Carolina's — undoing the DNC's plan to have the Palmetto State go first.
There's a similar stalemate between state party officials playing out in Georgia, since the DNC intends to move the Peach State's Democrat presidential primary earlier in the cycle. But in Georgia, Republican leaders have said they won't act to change the normal March primary date if doing so would hurt either party with their national organizations. Since the RNC already agreed to keep its usual schedule in place, moving the primary would mean the state GOP could be penalized for jumping out of order. Republicans in Georgia, unsurprisingly, aren't feeling like changing their schedule or moving to two separate primary dates just because the DNC voted to move things up.
Things haven't fully unfolded yet for Iowa, but they too have a state law requiring their primary be held first. By holding their caucuses first, they're able to technically follow the state requirement (being first in the country), and it allows New Hampshire to maintain their statutory requirement for holding the first primary (since Iowa uses the caucus process).
Clearly, Democrats have fumbled their way into an unforced error that offers another example of Democrats in disarray. Not only have they forced state parties to spend time and resources trying to adhere to the new primary schedule, but they've chosen to undo decades of presidential political history — and there's already talk they may try to bring even more changes to the order and schedule for the 2028 election cycle.
Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel noted in a statement over the weekend that the "RNC unanimously passed its rules over a year ago and solidified the traditional nominating process the American people know and understand." McDaniel contrasted the GOP's smooth-sailing decision for its 2024 calendar with the DNC's, saying Democrats "decided to break a half-century precedent and cause chaos by altering their primary process, and ultimately abandoning millions of Americans in Iowa and New Hampshire."
No, Iowa Democrats aren't happy. But neither are Democrats in some of the states who are being moved earlier on the primary calendar. There's something poetic about Democrats trying to virtue signal by tossing their 2024 schedule in a salad spinner and the result being state parties having to either break the law to comply or end up getting punished by the DNC for keeping their usual order. What a mess.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2024; democrats; iowa; primaries; spencerbrown
To: SeekAndFind
It’s too early to know what’s going on for 2024.
To: nickcarraway
The only thing that is certain is that they do not want Joe Or Kamala to run in 2024.
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:14:41 PM PST
by
Jonty30
(THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
To: SeekAndFind
The “POTUS” won’t be Biden by then. We all know he won’t.
Wants to spend more time with his family and has ongoing health issues he didn’t want to discuss until he resigned.
Or, a hypodermic syringe from a “helpful” Dem operative.
We accept Bob Dole, Mitt Romney or McCain. All with low chance of winning.
Dems never would allow that (since their wimpy 90s).
Newsom or Michelle Obama or both to go for all the game show winnings.
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:20:14 PM PST
by
frank ballenger
(You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
To: SeekAndFind
Obviously, the Democrats have given up on Iowa and the midwest and think they can make some inroads in S. Carolina and maybe Georgia. It probably won’t help them in 2024 but it will make things interesting in future cycles.
To: SeekAndFind
McDaniel noted in a statement over the weekend that the "RNC unanimously passed its rules over a year ago and solidified the traditional nominating process the American people know and understand." McDaniel says that as if it's a good thing. The presidential primary schedule is a ridiculous joke. Party apparatchiks want to keep old schedules intact because they want to be lazy and follow the last cycle's playbook. Show up to this state fair, beg these donors for donations in this way, bring candidate around to these radio stations and these diners. Iowa, NH, SC are great for the scam because they have inexpensive media markets, few unknowns in the influential party boss and activist population, and the states don't change much from cycle to cycle.
The primary schedule should reflect the strategy for the general election. Most important to win states get front loaded, and tossup or wave states get a chance to figure prominently, and the candidates get to demonstrate their organization and leadership, not which overpaid consultants they hire to follow along with a tired playbook they've been following for twenty years.
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:37:43 PM PST
by
jz638
To: SeekAndFind
Doesn’t matter because Trump is going to crush whoever the Dems scrape up.
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:46:44 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
To: Round Earther
Or so sure. Iowa has a lot of college students. But the state is way too white, the caucus system is stupid and confusing, and they can’t count
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:51:37 PM PST
by
j.havenfarm
(22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
To: Jonty30
I don’t know that is not true. Incumbents have a very strong track record.
To: nickcarraway
Normally that might be true, but they are both disasters in waiting and would get slaughtered. I think the only way either/both would be the candidate is if 2024 is an absolute write-off. I don’t they would waste a viable candidate if there is no chance.
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posted on
02/05/2023 9:53:52 PM PST
by
Jonty30
(THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
To: nickcarraway
If, as expected, the House conducts a thorough investigation of the Biden Crime Family, Joe will either not run or be challenged in a primary. There is a mountain of evidence in the laptop and from Bobulinski. Stick a fork in him.
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posted on
02/05/2023 10:08:38 PM PST
by
kabar
To: SeekAndFind
The fraud is already baked in, so I dont think they care.
To: SeekAndFind
They were thinking the same thing republicans were when Biden won more votes than Obama...
BS
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posted on
02/05/2023 11:57:59 PM PST
by
Safrguns
To: KC_Conspirator
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posted on
02/06/2023 12:23:52 AM PST
by
Chgogal
(Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
02/06/2023 3:11:55 AM PST
by
sauropod
(“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
To: nickcarraway
South Carolina first makes it easy to push a commie/progressive or worse into the top tier without going through the rigors of dealing with Iowa citizens.
Black South Carolina citizens aren’t known for their edgy intellects.
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posted on
02/06/2023 3:19:09 AM PST
by
GOPJ
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
To: Jonty30
Neither one will be on the ‘24 ticket.
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posted on
02/06/2023 3:45:22 AM PST
by
Fireone
(The only reason our elections are complicated is because the cheaters want it that way.)
To: SeekAndFind
Chaos opens a lot of doors for corruption and cheating.
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posted on
02/06/2023 5:03:52 AM PST
by
trebb
(So many fools - so little time...)
To: SeekAndFind
Article yesterday said they did it for diversities sake. Iowa is too white to be first.
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posted on
02/06/2023 5:55:14 AM PST
by
bk1000
(Banned from Breitbart)
To: SeekAndFind
In the last several weeks I have been saying to watch the state of South Carolina for how both Republican and Democrats wings of the UniParty, RNC and DNC respectively, plan to use South Carolina as the mechanism for the 2024 illusion of choice. What I call the RNC and DNC roadmaps.
Essentially the RNC/DNC constructs are the roadmaps, from the club system – two private corporations, to control the 2024 primary election outcomes.
This is all about controlling the mechanisms of elections and creating the illusion of choice while the invisible hands of the club officers control the operations.
You might remember how South Carolina was the inflection point for Biden in the 2020 primary. It was the SC primary when former President Obama (Black Lives Matter) and Congressman James Clyburn (AME Church network), aligned to select Joe Biden as the control mechanism to ensure Bernie Sanders was defeated.
Team Obama was operating with a sense of urgency because momentum was with Sanders and all other candidates including Biden were fractured.
Obama and Clyburn selected Biden due to his ability to be controlled. Most of the Obama administration now operates inside the Biden administration controlling the outcomes. Part of the ‘what’s in it for me’ aspect from Clyburn was the promise of increased influence and affluence. Including the pre-approval, first right of refusal for the Biden VP pick (ultimately Kamala Harris).
For 2024 the movement of South Carolina is being pushed to the base voters of the DNC through the social justice narrative about needing a more diverse state for the first DNC primary contest. No good Democrat political activists can counter that culturally approved party position. Predominately white states are bad, more diverse states are good. Thus, under this “diversity” premise, there can be no opposition or dissent from the party base. The justification is a political minefield.
However, that said, that justification is a ruse, a pretense intended to cloud and protect the Club roadmap. In reality, team Obama are fulfilling the prior pledge to James Clyburn.
Obama got to choose the 2020 candidate based on his Obama’s needs to protect himself from scrutiny, and now Clyburn gets the 2024 power position to select the next nominee.
That’s the non-pretending reality that everyone will say is ‘conspiracy theory’, it isn’t.
The RNC club roadmap for Ron DeSantis is also looking to South Carolina, New Hampshire and Georgia as control mechanisms to stop President Trump from winning the nomination. This has been part of a plan in the works for a long time (mid 2021).
The Nikki Haley and Tim Scott operations in South Carolina are part of the strategy; along with Chris Sununu in New Hampshire (despite backpedaling caused by CTH sunlight). Brian Kemp is being leveraged in Georgia, and within the big picture push overall, the establishment is leveraging the Republican Governor’s Association (RGA) as an institution to have a much bigger role in 2024. Just keep watching.
PHILADELPHIA — Democrats on Saturday voted overwhelmingly to remake the party’s presidential nominating calendar, embracing President Biden’s push for South Carolina to be the first state to hold its contest in 2024 and replacing Iowa amid calls for greater racial, geographic and economic diversity in the process.
The move by members of the Democratic National Committee was long expected, but it does not guarantee the calendar will ultimately be enacted as designed. In December, Biden asked DNC leaders to move up South Carolina, which sealed his comeback victory in the 2020 Democratic primary, to the first slot. Under the new plan, New Hampshire and Nevada would hold their primaries a week later, followed by primaries in Georgia and Michigan.
The vote here Saturday morning came at the DNC winter meeting, where Biden and Vice President Harris spoke Friday to some of the party’s most active members from across the country. Biden, who has yet to officially announce his reelection plans but has said he intends to run for a second term, was greeted by cheers of “four more years” as he took the stage.
[…] Iowa, a state that has an overwhelmingly White population, drew criticism during the 2020 Democratic primary for its lack of diversity and the inaccessibility of its caucuses, which are held on a winter weekday night and pose participation barriers for those who may have work, are disabled or have other obligations. In 2020, the Iowa Democratic Party also struggled to tabulate the results, leading to more criticism of their caucus system.
With South Carolina, the state that resuscitated Biden’s presidential bid in 2020, Democrats are elevating the role Black voters, a crucial voting bloc for the party across the country, will play in selecting the party’s nominee. “This calendar does what is long overdue,” DNC Chair Jaime Harrison said before the vote. “It expands the number of voices in the early window, and it elevates diverse communities that are at the core of the Democratic Party. (read more)
If the private corporation known as the DNC can overcome the New Hampshire legislative challenges, that puts California Governor Gavin Newsom at a disadvantage because the DNC Club is deferring to James Clyburn. Congressman Clyburn will select a racially qualified non-white candidate, likely female, to win the first set of state contests. The corporate apparatus will circle the wagons in favor of that candidate (it will not be Biden).
If the DNC club cannot overcome the legal and legislative challenges (New Hampshire example), then Gavin Newsom is more likely to gain DNC boardroom support. It depends on how well the corporation can Lawfare their interests into position.
On the private corporation side of the RNC, the billionaire class, multinationals, Wall Street and corporate establishment control officers have already pre-selected Ron DeSantis to play the role of Jeb! in 2024.
The RNC wants the money, and the billionaires, multinationals and Wall Street will be perfectly okay with the DNC selection because the RNC is not ideological.
From their perspective inside the RNC club, it doesn’t matter who wins; just as they were similarly positioned, unaffected and ambivalent in supporting Hillary ’16.
For both the RNC and DNC this is about the illusion of choice (for voters) and ultimately a controlled outcome (for DC). Once people finally make this reality part of their analysis, things really start to get clear.
If you doubt this is the reality of the 2024 situation, collect the data, apply the scientific method and prove this is not a controlled outcome. You won’t be able to do it, because there are already too many aligned receipts visible from the DeSantis management operation. It is from those receipts that predictions, essentially tripwires, are able to be constructed. The formality of the plan is how and why the South Carolina tripwire was predicted months ago.
The exact same conservative media from the ’16 Ted Cruz assembly will be supporting the DeSantis operation in 2024; most already are. Additionally, with the help of the professional management and branding group, a massive psychological operation on behalf of RdS began over a year ago. This is a UniParty script already written, with only one big disruption in the way….
That disruption has two elements. The first is Donald J Trump; the second is YOU.
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posted on
02/06/2023 6:29:00 AM PST
by
Bratch
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