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Raytheon CEO Outlines Severe Depletion of Javelin and Stinger Stockpiles (13 Years production burned through in Ukraine)
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Posted on 02/22/2023 2:04:39 PM PST by hcmama

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To: Sarcazmo

I read in the paper this morning that he plans to drain another 22 million barrels in FY23.

Big whoop!

that’s less than two days worth of USA consumption!!!

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/united-states/oil-consumption


61 posted on 02/22/2023 6:00:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: hcmama

That 400 Javelins per month is a VERY low figure. It comes out to just over 1 Javelin every two hours.

I recall the CEO of the HIMARS rocket factory saying they could crank out a (much larger) HIMARS rocket every 10 minutes without much difficulty. Which, at the time I thought was not very many for a large scale war that dragged out for long.

The CEO of the HIMARS plant was pretty clueless when it came to a not quite doubling of production, though. He said something along the lines of “we’d have to study it”.

The lack of contingency planning is astounding.

Russia’s defense industries & military appear to suffer from abject corruption. Ours appear to suffer from abject complacency - which includes our Congress-critters on the Armed Services Committees, and DOD and civilian “leadership”.

Maybe we are lucky Pooty invaded Ukraine. At least the problem is now evident without us having hundreds of thousands of troops in the field.


62 posted on 02/22/2023 6:02:36 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: sten
Don’t worry, they’ll just move onto the next weapon systems to deplete

Luckily, we do have quite a few. Only < 5% of our HIMARS launchers have been sent, for example. And not a single GLSDB so far. (The "can hit a moving target with 1 meter accuracy from 90 miles away" version would really be hell on tanks.)

63 posted on 02/22/2023 6:06:55 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: robowombat

See my post # 62.


64 posted on 02/22/2023 6:09:30 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: JoJo354

Complaining? He’s bragging!


65 posted on 02/22/2023 6:11:36 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Dogbert41

It seems to me EVERYBODY misjudged the Russians’ internal problems.

Given the choice of a complex conspiracy or incompetence / greed being the cause of a problem, it’ll actually be incompetence / greed 99 out of 100 times.


66 posted on 02/22/2023 6:13:27 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Dogbert41
The Russians keep their cards close to their chests as to the war.

But in the end they can't hide their retreats. They can't hide their inability, since declaring their intent last August, to take Bakhmut. Can you imagine the U.S. just unable to take an objective right in front of it for 6 months? Just stuck? We LIVE for the enemy to fix in place!

What is also obvious is that Russia did not have at it’s hands an extremely powerful and threatening offensive military jumping at the bit to conquer Finland, Sweden, Poland, Ukraine, Germany, the Czech Republic, etc., ad nauseum. Can we agree on that?

I agree they would have been smoked trying to take on NATO. But I think they also badly miscalculated their own power, and that can lead miscalculations about the ability to threaten, resist, and win in a conflict.

The concern for NATO from Russia was posed in the chance of a 'little green men' invasion of a Baltic republic with the declared goal of protecting the ethnic Russians therein. Freezing forces in place, and daring NATO to not accept the fait accompli.

Myself, while considering it the most likely flashpoint of a Russia/NATO conflict, didn't think it was more likely than not. And I think the progress of this conflict means that NATO PGMs would erase the Russian invaders in such a fictional Baltic scenario.

So what’s with America through NATO making a steady push up to Russia’s door as if they did and lying to everyone saying that they were?

Neocons gonna neocon. I don't let my hatred for their foreign policy overshadow my assessment of the relatively dismal state of the Russian military. I'm a military brat that came of age with my family deployed to West Germany, then the frontier of the Empire. I remember how eye opening the Gulf War was to all of us regarding the military gap at the end of the Reagan era.

67 posted on 02/22/2023 6:48:25 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: escapefromboston

Might be a good time to invest.


68 posted on 02/22/2023 6:54:21 PM PST by Greystoke
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To: escapefromboston

Might be a good time to invest.


69 posted on 02/22/2023 6:54:41 PM PST by Greystoke
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To: Elsie

Yeah, that’s probably true.

But the strategic oil reserve purpose is to fuel the military in an emergency, not the USA when gas prices become unpalatable.

22 million barrels is a lot of fighter jet gas.

Further, these caverns are not steel storage tanks. They cannot be emptied and refilled that many times before they’re ruined.


70 posted on 02/22/2023 7:32:32 PM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: ansel12

Taiwan and Ukraine ought to make them and pay for them.


71 posted on 02/22/2023 11:05:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: hcmama

It’s all part of the plan to destroy our military and food and energy production to make it easy for China to take over the USA.

What the leftist elites don’t realize is that the first think China will do is slaughter THEM!

From Soros Obama Rice Biden Gates Milley Miorkus et al and millions of other narccicists thinking they will be leaders

Fools!


72 posted on 02/23/2023 4:13:29 AM PST by Syncro (Facts and Truth.)
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To: hcmama; All

It’s all part of the plan to destroy our military and food and energy production to make it easy for China to take over the USA.

What the leftist elites don’t realize is that the first think China will do is slaughter THEM!

From Soros Obama Rice Biden Gates Milley Miorkus et al and millions of other narccicists thinking they will be leaders

Fools!


73 posted on 02/23/2023 4:13:54 AM PST by Syncro (Facts and Truth.)
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To: dljordan

Poland wants more presense of USA military in their country and offered to pay all costs.

NATO is getting serious and desperate


74 posted on 02/23/2023 4:17:29 AM PST by Syncro (Facts and Truth.)
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To: Fido969

LOL you are probably right!


75 posted on 02/23/2023 4:45:21 AM PST by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: R_Kangel

“... Hmmmm .... Why do I have a feeling that this is all part of the plan...”

You are 100% correct!

When they say the border is secure, what they mean is securely in the control of THE CARTELS!

Biden is completely successful in his job as dem President

Things are going just the way they want

China spying, 6 million illegal invaders, crime going wild all across the country.

Now coming to rural areas and nice quite safe suberbs

The area where I am, bedroom community 50,000 or so residents and a few hundred homeless costing millions

Yesterday a 74 yr old man came out if dialysis and was sitting down resting

Illegal thug comes up and slams him in the head

In hospital with brain bleed, very critical.

California, where Gov Newsom has invited all illegals to come in

2 years ago had 90 billion surplus, now has 49 billion deficit.

He’d make a great president dontcha think???


76 posted on 02/23/2023 5:04:03 AM PST by Syncro (Facts and Truth.)
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To: Eleutheria5

What annoys you about Taiwan buying our weapons?


77 posted on 02/23/2023 5:40:30 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

It annoys me if Brandon is outright gifting it to Taiwan and Ukraine, as if he hadn’t overspent enough. Teach a man to fish. License them to produce, maybe even finance the factory under favorable terms. Do lend-lease. Sell it outright. However that works out. But they have to pay for it.


78 posted on 02/23/2023 6:07:51 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: hcmama

I wonder where that 13 year supply was meant to be used?

Because they haven’t taken any old stock from the Far East.

I wonder if that was targeted for use in a potential war with Russia?


79 posted on 02/23/2023 6:11:05 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Delta 21

You think we left Javelins in Afghanistan? Were we using them against Taliban tanks and jets?

There are probably more Javelins at my local National Guard armory than there were in Afghanistan. We left trucks and firearms there.


80 posted on 02/23/2023 6:12:38 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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