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--and while fun to shoot on a range, there's no place for full auto in police work--
1 posted on 02/27/2023 6:47:33 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Full auto has its uses. When ammunition is readily available, it is used to make the enemy seek cover and not fire back....suppression if you will.


2 posted on 02/27/2023 6:50:31 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: rellimpank

If it comes down to defending my family and home, I don’t care about what is practical for the police force.


5 posted on 02/27/2023 6:55:48 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: rellimpank

The Second Amendment exists so that We The People will have the ability to wage war against tyrants. Full auto could have a role in that effort.


6 posted on 02/27/2023 6:56:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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I knew a cop whose department had a couple full auto’s. He said he had no idea why they had them.


7 posted on 02/27/2023 6:56:58 PM PST by cyclotic
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Full auto thins out a mob/crowd.

Other ways to do it? Sure. But its one way.


10 posted on 02/27/2023 7:01:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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When government goons outnumber you 10 to 1 then full auto is a necessity.


11 posted on 02/27/2023 7:05:01 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (The Ukraine is dead, the head just doesn't know it yet.)
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Properly used, full auto is not used to fire at a target, but to set up a wall of fire across the path of an advancing enemy.


13 posted on 02/27/2023 7:09:57 PM PST by Petrosius
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What video games and movies don’t depict correctly is the insane recoil automatic fire causes.

That is completely dependent on the weapon and caliber being fired.

M-14 firing .7.62 NATO (.308 Winchester)? Uncontrollable.

MP-5 firing 9mm Parabellum? You can write your name.

15 posted on 02/27/2023 7:11:27 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Back in the 70s before the EPA put an end to it, we deposed of spent fluorescent bulbs by throwing them overboard and shooting them up with our Thompson sub-machine gun. You really have to push down to keep the muzzle down.


16 posted on 02/27/2023 7:14:00 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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Because ammo is now on back-order?


19 posted on 02/27/2023 7:16:55 PM PST by Paladin2
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It’s not... “A Right to Keep and Bear Arms... as long as they’re practical”.

It’s fun. That’s about as much justification as anyone should need. Ever. Full stop.


22 posted on 02/27/2023 7:19:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Spray and pray.

I would like to have the option of setting my AR or AK for single or 3 round burst. But fully auto? Beyond doing it one time for fun, nah. Not practical and I am far too cheap to chew up money like that.


24 posted on 02/27/2023 7:21:00 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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Full auto guns have a BIG problem. Very few have the money to provide the huge quantity of bullets needed to run them. In fact, it is the virtue of semi-automatic mode to control the firing of shots one bullet at a time. It is a practical matter that the anti-gun fanatics want to use to blur full auto with semi-auto. Semi-auto is more effective because of cost and control.
25 posted on 02/27/2023 7:21:46 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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This clown is trying to force-fit the facts into his narrative.

Unless you’re giddy from the thrill of rockin’-n-rollin’, the first shot you fire will be placed every bit as precisely as if you were shooting semi-auto because it’s not full-auto until the second primer breaks. After that it’s largely a matter of how well you’re trained, your proximity to the targets, and how many basic loads of ammo you’ve brought with out.

One of the reasons the 3-round burst control on the M-4 was such a disaster is after 4 or 5 rounds you can re-establish pretty good precision, if you’ve spent the time and money to train up to it. Rounds 2 and 3 were among the worst of the lot, so the burst control in essence screws up two shots out of three.

Precise enough to drill Davis Tutt through the heart from 75 yards? Maybe not but it can be precise enough to put 6 or 8 COM.

To universally proclaim that full-auto is NEVER practical is pontifical hooey because it presumes there CAN NEVER WILL NEVER be a circumstance when that extra click on your selector switch can save your life. And I’m here to differ.

Plus it’s a great way to turn money into noise.


27 posted on 02/27/2023 7:22:57 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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The drug thugs can’t hit a person standing in front of them with one or two shots. Hence the need.


28 posted on 02/27/2023 7:28:02 PM PST by anton
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Was in the National Guard many years ago and the two weapons I became most familiar with were the M16 and M60. We had M16 A2s and they had a selector of safe/single/3-round burst/full-auto. The SOP was to use either single or 3-round burst because full auto emptied out the magazine for not much of an advantage over a 3 round burst. On the other hand the M60 was belt fed and way easier to hit things far away with as well as lay down a line of fire across advancing enemies that they did not want to cross.


31 posted on 02/27/2023 7:32:01 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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“The Owen was the only entirely Australian-designed and constructed service submachine gun of World War II and was used by the Australian Army from 1942 until 1971.”

“The placement of the magazine allows gravity to assist the magazine spring in pushing cartridges down to the breech, which improves feeding reliability. Another unusual feature is the separate compartment inside the receiver, which isolates the small-diameter bolt from its retracting handle by means of a small bulkhead. This prevents dirt and mud from jamming the bolt, and makes the Owen a highly reliable weapon. The top-mounted magazine meant that if mud entered the weapon, it would either fall out on its own, or be pushed out by the magazine spring. When tested, the Owen gun was able to continue firing despite being dipped in mud and drenched with sand, while a Sten gun and a Thompson also tested stopped functioning at once. In jungle warfare, where both mud and sand were frequent problems, the Owen gun was highly regarded by the soldiers.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_gun


33 posted on 02/27/2023 7:37:59 PM PST by Brian Griffin (This is a great list: https://www.crf-usa.org/research-links/links.html)
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Are their certain inefficiencies inherent in full auto? I don’t know anybody ignorant enough to claim otherwise.

But who told this asswipe that he was empowered with deciding who is worthy and who isn’t?


34 posted on 02/27/2023 7:40:49 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submachine_guns

There are links to lists of other gun types.


35 posted on 02/27/2023 7:44:31 PM PST by Brian Griffin (This is a great list: https://www.crf-usa.org/research-links/links.html)
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How about we let the collective ingenuity of American inventors work on this issue for the next 20 or 30 years.

I bet there will be some remarkable solutions devised.

IF we get the NFA out of our way.


37 posted on 02/27/2023 7:49:04 PM PST by CurlyDave
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