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Nolte: ABC News Admits Electric Vehicles Are a ‘Logistical Nightmare
Breitbart ^ | 02-28-2023 | John Notle

Posted on 02/28/2023 10:55:22 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Even far-left ABC News admits that electric vehicle owners face a “logistical nightmare” when it comes to everyday use, not to mention long drives.

A piece written by Morgan Korn tries to make it sound as though His Fraudulency Joe Biden is some sort of savior with his goal of “installing 500,000 new chargers across the U.S. and dramatically boosting EV sales by 2030,” but that’s not going to solve a lot of the problems. In fact, while critical of the current situation for electric vehicles, this article fails to mention all the “logistical nightmares” electric vehicle owners face.

Korn writes:

YouTube personality Steve Hammes leased a Hyundai Kona Electric sport utility vehicle for his 17-year-old daughter Maddie for three reasons: it was affordable, practical and allowed Maddie to put her cash toward college, not fuel. Now, the upstate New York resident has a dilemma many EV owners can relate to: finding available charging stations far away from home.

“We’re going through the planning process of how easily Maddie can get from Albany to Gettysburg [College] and where she can charge the car,” Hammes told ABC News. “It makes me a little nervous. We want fast chargers that take 30 to 40 minutes — it would not make sense to sit at a Level 2 charger for hours. There isn’t a good software tool that helps EV owners plan their trips.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electric; logistical; nightnmare; vechicles; wlectricvehihicles
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To: ridesthemiles

>Many of those chargers will be easily tampered with in outlying areas.<

Charger: CALL SECURITY! CALL SECURITY! LMAO!


21 posted on 02/28/2023 11:31:03 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: Mouton

You have clearly never driven a Tesla on a road trip. The computer in the car knows how many stalls are free, the charging rates, where to stop and for how long, etc.


22 posted on 02/28/2023 11:35:39 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Even far-left ABC News admits that electric vehicle owners face a “logistical nightmare” when it comes to everyday use, not to mention long drives.

As many as 25% of electric auto chargers don't work.

A Quarter Of All EV Chargers Don’t Work, Half Of Car Trips Are Less Than 3 Miles

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/05/16/a-quarter-of-all-ev-chargers-dont-work-half-of-car-trips-are-less-than-3-miles/

23 posted on 02/28/2023 11:38:35 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Mouton
There may be charging stations on the map but one thing it does not tell you is it it operable or not occupied.

Plugshare is a good forum app with other EV owners telling you general broad reviews of the charging stations (i.e. got 130kW max from the 150kW charging station #3, or well lit up at night, etc.). I hear good reviews about ABRP (A Better Route Planner). Neither of those, though, give you real time stats.

The apps for the various charging networks (i.e. Electrify America, or Chargepoint) give you real time stats and prices. (i.e. 2 350kW CCS charging stations working, 1 available; 4 150kW CCS stations, working 2 available).

If my wife and I take the EV on a trip (sometimes it's better to take the ICE pickup), that's how we plan the charging stops. Since it takes 10-15 minutes to charge at a 350kW, or 15-20 minutes at a 150kW, and since she likes to stop every 200 miles and walk around 10 or 15 minutes anyway even when we take the ICE pickup and don't have to stop at 200 miles, the EV often works well for us. Then there's if we stay at a hotel with a charger (often slow like charging at home, but who cares if it takes 6 hours to charge while you sleep). Basically when we leave the hotel we have a full charge instead of having to stop and get gas like we do if we take the ICE pickup.

If the plugshare app doesn't help us find good chargers on a road trip we want to take, we take the ICE pickup. It's rare I go on a road trip for work without my wife, something I haven't done since we got the EV. But if that happens again I'll probably take the ICE pickup so I can stop every 300 or 400 miles instead of at 200 miles.

All of this, though, is from a free market perspective. I very much disagree with the premise of the article written from a "Oh, government, save us" mindset. The main reason there are less chargers on the road is because entrepreneurs are afraid to pay the cost to set up some chargers next to their store or restaurant knowing the government is liable to force a new Volkswagen settlement to build an Electrify American charging bay nearby that's free to new EV owners for the first year or two. IMHO if government quit "helping" there'd be more entrepreneurs providing good chargers for EV owners like the free market produced good gas stations for ICE owners.

24 posted on 02/28/2023 11:41:06 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
A hurricane in Florida knocks out all of the power and everyone with an EV is stuck.

My daughter lived near Gulf Shores, AL and complained about gas stations not being able to pump gas when the power is out from a hurricane. You'd think they'd have backup generators, but evidently not. I've seen that here too with power outages, though from tornados not hurricanes and usually not taking nearly as long for the power to be restored. And limited in scope (a tornado might knock out power on a path no larger than a few miles in width, unless it's the 2011 tornado that was the largest set of tornadoes in our lives), so if you have gas for a few miles you can find a gas station within reach.

25 posted on 02/28/2023 11:47:00 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: dinodino

Clearly I have not and do not expect to in my remaining years on earth. I will though drive my 14yo ICE car as long as I can watching for the almost universal coverage by gasoline stations.


26 posted on 02/28/2023 11:48:44 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: ClearCase_guy
I am not at all sure how cost-effective these things really are.

If charging from home, it cost me 15.7 cents/kWh on my last power bill (after subtracting flat monthly fees). I get a hair over 3 miles per kWh in my EV driving my normal lead-footed ways (except for when I had the EV in west Texas and was driving 90 mph LOL). So $1 added to my power bill gets me 19 miles.

Of course, that's without taking into account other cost savings like if her college has free charging parking spaces, if there's solar at home to make some of the power free. It also doesn't account for things like higher car insurance (mine went up $70/month, but that was mainly because I was going from liability coverage only for a cheap paid for used car to full coverage on an expensive car). And higher cost up front ("up front" let's be honest, means making car payments not paying cash, so higher cost EV means higher car payments vs new ICE car, thus the question becomes if the payment increase + insurance increase is less than the gas savings + oil change savings).

There are lots of variables.

27 posted on 02/28/2023 11:55:09 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ridesthemiles
I have driven over 1 million miles with PAPER maps-—NO GPS of any kind.

Problem is finding paper maps. That's why I kept dozens of paper maps over the past few decades. Other problem are the changes not reflected on the paper maps. I have seen relatives struggle with GPS that takes them to destinations in the wrong towns miles away (oops!). That won't happen with paper maps.

28 posted on 02/28/2023 12:43:07 PM PST by roadcat
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To: ridesthemiles

So what....... GPS is superior to your paper in every respect.


29 posted on 02/28/2023 12:46:12 PM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The [push for all electric vehicles is a push to severely limit mobility of the citizenry. All totalists hate mobility in their populations. It is harder to control people who can just get uup and go somewhere.


30 posted on 02/28/2023 12:56:10 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe |l|)
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To: Red Badger

Red Badger wrote: “There isn’t a good software tool that helps EV owners plan their trips. Sure there is! It’s called YOUR BRAIN!......”

Google maps allows you to search for EV charging stations just like you do for gas stations.


31 posted on 02/28/2023 1:02:14 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

People are so used to ‘googling’ every little thing they forget how to think!...................


32 posted on 02/28/2023 1:07:21 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“from Albany to Gettysburg [College”

I am going to build an EV station in Gettysburg and call it Pickett’s Charge.


33 posted on 02/28/2023 1:11:23 PM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

if it’s sooo great, WHY do taxpayers have to pay for stations???

i’m sure AMACO, Sunoco and all the rest would have liked that deal


34 posted on 02/28/2023 1:44:50 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: dinodino

” computer in the car knows how many stalls are free, the charging rates, where to stop”

Bet it does not tell you when the “where to stop” is in the ghetto—because that would be racist!


35 posted on 02/28/2023 1:51:52 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

I don’t think Teslas are hot sellers in the ghetto…


36 posted on 02/28/2023 2:01:35 PM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino

The senile guy in the WH is planning on putting charging stations in ghettos from coast to coast—and some virtue signalers are gotta get to know the natives while waiting for their charge—up close and personal.


37 posted on 02/28/2023 2:06:39 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“”We need to have the battery at 100% or close to it to test a vehicle’s performance.””

Most battery manuals recommend ONLY charging to 80%, and do not let it fall to under 20%. This is to keep the battery ‘healthy.’ Will any vehicle testing reflect this, instead of how many miles on a full charge? Doubtful. Also, over and over I read about fast and super charging, but they do not mention the damage to the battery, and the damage to the overall lifetime of the battery.

Some European ferry companies have banned EVs due to the EV vehicle fires. Some New York buildings have banned EV bikes and scooters due to fires.

It is not just EV autos that are burning. Research Moss Landing battery fires for a glimpse of the lovely future the democRATS have planned for us. There was a functioning natural gas electricity plant at Moss Landing. They shut it down, and are using the buildings for the batteries (they state they will charge all the batteries with solar panels. I believe that will be a little difficult at night, just sayin’). President Trump demonstrated, by letting the drillers Drill Baby Drill, that we are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. Abundant, inexpensive energy equals more freedom, and the democRATS hate it. Obama installed massive natural gas tanks on some of his properties, and the Oregon governor just spent over & $300,000 for natural gas power generation in his mansion. As the leftist wackos try to eliminate oil and natural gas for the rest of us, they have no issues with using it.

UPS and FedEx have invested billions in natural gas. You can easily use natural gas to power the internal combustion engine. Many cities converted all kinds of transport and service machines to natural gas. The huge trash collection machines that drive up and down the block each week have large signs on them: Clean-Burning, Natural Gas Vehicle. In the democRATS Brave New World, will all these city and county machines have to be scrapped? Will FedEx and UPS be forced to demolish their natural gas fueling depots? They spent billions because the democRATS stated that natural gas is the ‘clean burning’ fossil fuel.


38 posted on 02/28/2023 2:51:44 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: dangus
Even Quiroga’s team of reporters has to carefully plan and calculate how far EV charging stations are when they conduct comparison tests among manufacturers.

Sounds like they need a wagon master to get them from water hole to water hole, so to speak.

39 posted on 02/28/2023 4:24:04 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: XRdsRev

“I am going to build an EV station in Gettysburg and call it Pickett’s Charge.”


Finely, some humor on this post!


40 posted on 03/01/2023 7:16:16 AM PST by RCFlyer
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