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Without us ‘there is no Google’: EU telcos ramp up pressure on Big Tech to pay for the internet
CNBC ^ | March 10, 2023 | Ryan Browne & Arjun Kharpal

Posted on 03/11/2023 3:00:58 PM PST by Twotone

Tensions between European telecommunications firms and U.S. Big Tech companies have crested, as telecom bosses mount pressure on regulators to make digital giants fork up some of the cost of building the backbone of the internet.

European telcos argue that large internet firms, mainly American, have built their businesses on the back of the multi-billion dollar investments that carriers have made in internet infrastructure.

Google, Netflix, Meta, Apple, Amazon and Microsoft generate nearly half of all internet traffic today. Telcos think these firms should pay “fair share” fees to account for their disproportionate infrastructure needs and help fund the rollout of next-generation 5G and fiber networks.

The European Commission, the EU’s executive arm, opened a consultation last month examining how to address the imbalance. Officials are seeking views on whether to require a direct contribution from internet giants to the telco operators.

Big Tech firms say this would amount to an “internet tax” that could undermine net neutrality.

Top telecom bosses came out swinging at the tech companies during the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona.

They bemoaned spending billions on laying cables and installing antennas to cope with rising internet demand without corresponding investments from Big Tech.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigtech; donatefreerepublic; google; internet; netflix

1 posted on 03/11/2023 3:00:58 PM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Interesting given they built their entire healthcare systems thx to US R&D. Without us there is no EU or for that matter much other healthcare. They decimated their military spending thanks to us. One would think the least they could do is pick up the electric bill.


2 posted on 03/11/2023 3:20:07 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Twotone

To Europe. America invented the internet Eurotrash, you are welcome. No w STFU.


3 posted on 03/11/2023 3:20:33 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: Twotone
I dont get this, just charge them for bandwidth like everyone else. But you see Google, Amazon, Meta networks dwarf the clasic non state regulated market in EU and USA. The old telcos would owe the new kids as the clouds become the transit providers. The telcos need to pay google to deliver googles data or google will do everything but the last regulatory mile.

Quite honestly this is a c level suite bitch that Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, Azure, Lumen, Equinix and the cablecos are not giving away 5 year peering agreements every time the carriers are jumping from 10G/100G/1TB/1TB/10TB/100TB technologies on the same old backbones. The entire model has changed, the clouds are the servers and wireless and home internet is the clients. Everyone else are 3rd party that are rent seekers at this time. The switches have always been 3-7k per port of the latest hotness, perhaps 14k if your at the top end of the non blocking, no oversubscription.

4 posted on 03/11/2023 3:23:30 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: Twotone

EU commies and censors. Internet access isn’t a right or free to those who can’t afford it at their residence. Basic service, not 100’s of megs and unlimited data volumes, is not expensive, especially outside the US. Or go to the library. Subscribers pay for their own Internet service to access those sites, which are paying for their Internet service to be accessed. Google should not be paying for me to access FR, because it will eventually stop me from accessing FR—and can.


5 posted on 03/11/2023 3:23:49 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Twotone

“Pay their fair share??!!?” Have they paid their fair share when it comes to NATO or the UN?


6 posted on 03/11/2023 3:55:34 PM PST by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: Twotone

I wonder how much involvement the

WEF and Schwabs minions have

since Schwab et.al. seems to be

involved in every single gawd D* mn

goings on within Europe and wherever

else the WEF sticky fingers are.


7 posted on 03/11/2023 4:39:37 PM PST by thesligoduffyflynns ( When you are going through hell keep goingoo more Lufthan)
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To: Twotone
I don't mind Big Tech being made to pay through the nose.

Thirty or so years ago, I would have made a Randian argument in defense of big business. But these companies are so anti-white and anti-Christian, I don't mind if socialist foreign governments take a bite out of them. The enemy of my enemy, etc.

8 posted on 03/11/2023 5:06:58 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Prince of Space
Have they paid their fair share when it comes to NATO or the UN?

Yes. NATO is an arm of the Pentagon. It exists to project American power into Europe. So it's appropriate that the U.S. funds it.

I don't think we should be in NATO. But I don't blame anyone else for not wanting to fund it.

As for the UN, it's a platform for Third World financial demands, for American LGBT promotion, and for Euro-American climate change projects.

No reason why any nation should fund it, so there is no "fair share." But if any nation is dumb enough to fund the UN, that's on them.

We shouldn't fund NATO or the UN. And if some other nation refuses to pay their "fair share" they have my compliments.

9 posted on 03/11/2023 5:14:20 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Twotone
"Without us ‘there is no Google’...

... and the world would be a far better place without either of you.


Using any G**gle product is as much as begging for a procotological exam every time you fire it up.

10 posted on 03/11/2023 8:36:35 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Angelino97

Yes, NATO largely ended war in what was the most violent place on earth.

Romans, Parisians et al have been able to live to almost 80yrs old without being warred on once in their lives for the first time in ages. They simultaneously decimated their own military spending.

I don’t think we should be in NATO. Victimization lasts forever, accomplishments like ending war in Northern and Western Europe can be wiped out by some rainbow flags and likewise nonsense.


11 posted on 03/11/2023 11:47:38 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Angelino97

Who do you think will wind up paying for any increase in fees?

You, me, and 100s of millions of other US Citizens.

Ahhhh, no thanks.


12 posted on 03/12/2023 12:50:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: Twotone

I am for anything that harms Big Tech.


13 posted on 03/12/2023 5:21:23 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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