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To: 9YearLurker

Here’s a fact about sea level rising- it has s,owed down tremendously over the last 8000 years or so according to the stated claim

“P.S. The last glacial maximum, c 21,000 years ago, sea level was c 130 meters below today’s level. From c 14,000 to c 6,000 years ago, sea level rose precipitously from c 110 meters to c 15 meters below today’s level. 95 meters over 8,000 years = +/- .012 meters/year. Over the last 8,000 years, sea level has risen at a modest, steady rate the last 15 meters to its current level. That = 15/8000 = c .002 meters/year =2/12, or 1/6th the rate of the post glacial sea level spike (Meltwater Pulse). Land subsidence accounts for some apparent sea level rise, e.g. The Battery in NY since 1850 registers 2.84 mm steady (not accelerating) sea level rise/ year, while San Francisco, since 1940, only indicates 0.41 steady (not accelerating) mm/year. Stockholm, Sweden registers sea level retreat of 3.81 mm/year, due to land uplift”

https://www.independent.com/2019/12/24/sea-level-rise-and-other-nonsense/

It’s not excelerating, but rather staying fairly steady, and slower than it used to be at that.

Question is, what was causing the seas to rise say 6000 years ago? Obviously man had no inf,uence on it as it was pre industrial age. So if it has remained Ed steady for the claimed 8000 years, then it shows to go that the industrial age is ot the cause of rising seas- something else is causing them to rise, and man has no way to a.ter that and man is arrogant if he thinks he can by taxing the snot out of folks

““The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” —H. L. Mencken


132 posted on 03/17/2023 6:57:02 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Interesting, thanks.


133 posted on 03/17/2023 7:12:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bob434

“Rise of sea levels is ‘the greatest lie ever told’
The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, “the sea is not rising,” he says. “It hasn’t risen in 50 years.” If there is any rise this century it will “not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm”. And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on “going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world”.

When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.

Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.

One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC’s favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a “corrective factor” of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they “needed to show a trend”.

When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an “expert reviewer” on the IPCC’s last two reports, he was “astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one”. Yet the results of all this “deliberate ignorance” and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.

•For more information, see Dr Mörner on YouTube (Google Mörner, Maldives and YouTube); or read on the net his 2007 EIR interview “Claim that sea level is rising is a total fraud”; or email him – morner@pog.nu – to buy a copy of his booklet ‘The Greatest Lie Ever Told’”


134 posted on 03/17/2023 7:14:40 AM PDT by Bob434
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