[noiseman]

Between this move and his maneuvering on Ukraine, I don’t see myself being able to support DeSantis. He is a pol, and a pol who doesn’t understand HOW to read polls for a nationwide contest.

My litmus test for a politician is whether they look like they are seeking office more for themselves, or so that they can actually serve and improve the country. Until recently, I held DeSantis in nearly as high regard as I do Trump, but not anymore. It’s becoming crystal clear now that as was reported, DeSantis has the RINO establishment backing him and whispering in his ear, and he seems more gleeful by the day in spouting the RINO party line about various issues, especially anywhere that Trump is involved.

We were all shocked at first when Trump seemed to start attacking DeSantis for no apparent reason recently, or some chalked it up to Trump’s ego running amuck, but we should have taken a breath and realized that Trump never does anything without a good reason, and even in what appear to be his most erratic moments he is nearly always proven right later, and proven to have had a solid reason for acting as he did. I think he had early info that DeSantis was considering running, and that his backers and financiers were vermin like the Bushes, the Kochs, and Paul Ryan, among others. That is likely what set him off, because he could see that they were now going to try to use DeSantis as just the latest weapon in their never-ending crusade to get rid of Trump. And it’s looking like DeSantis himself is fully onboard with their psychotic nonsense, just because it may benefit him personally. Incidentally, I don’t think the RINO cabal even cares whether DeSantis wins the presidency, just so long as he knocks Trump out of the primary. They have always seemed to be perfectly happy to have a democrat in charge. What they won’t tolerate is an outsider who seeks to disrupt their cozy little D.C. club.

What a tragic fall from such potential heights, but he’s done. There’s no coming back from such a breach of trust. Trump was right yet again.

[miserare]

It is way too early in the race to reach such a hyperbolic conclusion.

[TalBlack]

We were all shocked at first when Trump seemed to start attacking DeSantis for no apparent reason …”

I wondered if Trump knew something at the time. I’m sure many did.

I thought we had a backup in DeSantis. Seems not.

[vivenne]

Agree, 100%.

[kiryandil]

Incidentally, I don’t think the RINO cabal even cares whether DeSantis wins the presidency, just so long as he knocks Trump out of the primary. They have always seemed to be perfectly happy to have a democrat in charge. What they won’t tolerate is an outsider who seeks to disrupt their cozy little D.C. club.

Another freeper who has learned from his time here.

[Fresh Wind]

I don’t think the RINO cabal even cares whether DeSantis wins the presidency, just so long as he knocks Trump out of the primary.

The dems and their fellow travelers in the GOPee are scared to death of Trump. The would much rather run against DeSantis.

[Dr. Sivana]

I don’t think the RINO cabal even cares whether DeSantis wins the presidency, just so long as he knocks Trump out of the primary.

I believe that is the case as well. I am now of the opinion that even if 2024 is rigged in the general due to ballot manipulation, that it is more important to keep the MAGA coalition together until we have a genuine two-party system again. In Canada, insurgent parties ramp up quickly, make a huge splash, as it is a parliamentary system, and then they reunite with the Tories, and then wind up being Tories again, like the insurgency never happened.The Tories wind up being embarrassed by social conservatives and patriotic populists and keep them on a short leash, until the next insurgency that falls short.

We have to have it out and chase the Romneys et al away. There will be some pretenders who stick around. Fine, as long as they stay in DEEP COVER, and get nothing more important than Senator, and always be ready to attack them if they get out of line. We will need ex-Democrats and the politically disaffected for this to happen. We will also have to put up with losing elections for a while, because the RINOs would rather the Dem win than one of us. We cannot let the fear of losing elections scare us into having saboteurs in our midst. We also have to be patient. This is a generational battle, and there is no guarantee we will have the numbers to pull it off as things now stand.