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Returning to Neocon Roots – DeSantis Backtracks on His Tucker Carlson Ukraine Position as Territorial Dispute, Now Says “I think it’s been mischaracterized,” and “Putin is a war criminal”
The Last Refuge ^ | March 22, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 03/23/2023 8:52:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

After attempting to navigate through the politics in order to curry favor with the base Republican voters on a Ukraine position, when confronted by Piers Morgan who is a pro-NATO war voice, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis now says his former position on Ukraine has been “mischaracterized” and Vladimir Putin “is a war criminal.”

The walk back highlights once again that Ron DeSantis is an empty vessel using poll testing to formulate his policy stances.

The reversing comments on Vladimir Putin and Ukraine come from the interview DeSantis gave to Piers Morgan as noted in a recent New York Post article:

(Piers Morgan, NY Post) – Florida’s Gov. Ron DeSantis has branded Vladimir Putin a “war criminal” and demanded he be “held accountable” for his barbaric invasion of Ukraine.

Taking a tougher tone from his statement last week appearing to dismiss the year-long war as a “territorial dispute,” DeSantis now says Russia was WRONG to invade Ukraine and was WRONG to invade and take over Crimea in 2014, and won’t win the war. And he’s made his strongest attack yet on Russia’s dictator, calling him a loser who is “basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons.”

His assertion, in a statement to Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson, that it is not in America’s “vital national interests” to become “further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia” was strongly criticized by numerous senior Republicans — including Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio.

When I asked him specifically if he regretted using the phrase “territorial dispute,” DeSantis replied, “Well, I think it’s been mischaracterized. Obviously, Russia invaded (last year) — that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014 — That was wrong.

[…] “There is a move now to hold [Vladimir Putin] accountable for war crimes,” I told DeSantis, “bombing maternity hospitals and genocidal activity in parts of Ukraine wiping out whole cities like Mariupol. Would you support that?”

“I think he is a war criminal,” he replied. “This ICC … we have not done that in the US because we’re concerned about our soldiers or people being brought under it. So, I don’t know about that route, but I do think that he should be held accountable.” DeSantis is convinced Ukraine will eventually prevail in the war. (read more)

The DeSantis team has also hired the notorious dirtbag, Jeff Roe.

You might remember Roe as the former 2016 campaign manager for Ted Cruz who falsely told the people of Iowa, on the night before the primary caucus, that Dr. Ben Carson dropped out of the race. The Cruz Crew amplified this false message, and duped Carson caucus supporters who subsequently switched candidates on election day to support Ted Cruz. Jeff Roe created the lie, then tried to deny it.

(Via Politico) – […] Jeff Roe, who previously ran Sen. Ted Cruz’s 2016 presidential campaign, has signed on to be an adviser to the super PAC, Never Back Down, according to an operative with direct knowledge of the move.

Never Back Down is being spearheaded by executive director Chris Jankowski, another seasoned Republican operative. Ken Cuccinelli, a former top Homeland Security official to Donald Trump, is serving as chair of the super PAC. Over the last several weeks, Cuccinelli has visited four key early GOP primary states. (read more)

A DeSantis political group that would hire Jeff Roe highlights, yet again, how the DeSantis 2024 campaign is a mirror of Ted Cruz campaign in 2016.

Factually, almost all of the 2016 never-Trump Cruz Crew are now members of the 2024 never-Trump Desantis Crew. To assist this overall ‘never-Trump’ endeavor, in 2024 Vivek Ramaswamy is now playing the former role of Evan McMullin in 2016.

The professional political class of the GOPe, the DeceptiCons, are never as vicious against Democrats as they are against candidates who do not conform to the Republican UniParty orthodoxy. If you want to see the Republicans fight dirty, just become a Republican political candidate that does not comply with them. Then, and only then, will you see a side of the Republican wing that doesn’t surface against Democrats.

Threaten their GOPe Wall Street multinational corporate interests, ie. ‘their money‘, and the DeceptiCons get vicious.

If the professional Republicans are NOT targeting a Republican politician, you can be assured that Republican politician is a member of the GOPe club operation.

Yes, it really is that simple, and Ron DeSantis is a member of that club.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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1 posted on 03/23/2023 8:52:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

please clap


2 posted on 03/23/2023 8:53:21 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: SoConPubbie

I have no intention of ever voting for this guy. Seems like a good governor for Florida.


3 posted on 03/23/2023 8:54:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: SoConPubbie
Putin is a war criminal.
And Zelensky's govt is the replacement one for the Ukraine elected govt ousted by Obama/Biden's CIA in 2014.

There are no good guys in this.

4 posted on 03/23/2023 8:54:22 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SoConPubbie

1) What is a “neocon”?

1a) What is a conservative?

2) Is or was DeSantis a “neocon”?


5 posted on 03/23/2023 8:56:05 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SoConPubbie

DeSantis in 2023 reminds me of Cruz in 2015.


6 posted on 03/23/2023 8:57:09 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sounding more Jebbish.


7 posted on 03/23/2023 8:57:40 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Did he get a call from Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan?


8 posted on 03/23/2023 8:57:53 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s a minefield out there, Ron - no matter where you step, you’re bound to trigger something nasty.


9 posted on 03/23/2023 8:58:49 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Tell It Right

How is Putin a war criminal?


10 posted on 03/23/2023 9:03:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SoConPubbie

Why is it so hard to see that this is a case of bad on bad, both are tyrants and it would have been best to stay out of it and work for containment.


11 posted on 03/23/2023 9:05:13 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Tell It Right
How is Putin a war criminal?

The ICC said so.

That's the same ICC that the US threatened, if they got any ideas about prosecuting Americans for "war crimes".

12 posted on 03/23/2023 9:06:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SoConPubbie

His handlers should be proud. He’s demonstrating his ability to turn puppet into a verb.


13 posted on 03/23/2023 9:06:54 AM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is not a contradiction.


14 posted on 03/23/2023 9:07:08 AM PDT by bwest
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He opposes Big Fag. Can’t have that.


15 posted on 03/23/2023 9:09:08 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
How is Putin a war criminal?

He removed children from a war zone.

16 posted on 03/23/2023 9:10:15 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SoConPubbie

The unmasking of Ron DeSoros.


17 posted on 03/23/2023 9:13:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Tell It Right

> There are no good guys in this. <

Yep. The following statements are not mutually exclusive. I believe all four are correct.

1. This is a territorial dispute.
2. Putin had a right to be concerned about NATO’s expansion.
3. Putin wildly overreacted to point #2, and started a war. That makes him a war criminal.
4. Ukraine is a corrupt, stinking mess. And Zelensky is no Churchill.


18 posted on 03/23/2023 9:14:40 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan

👍🤣👍


19 posted on 03/23/2023 9:16:00 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Tell It Right
And Zelensky's govt is the replacement successor one for the Ukraine elected govt ousted by Obama/Biden's CIA in 2014.

Fixed it for you.

20 posted on 03/23/2023 9:17:48 AM PDT by Angelino97
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