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Why there may be no return to 'normal' for the U.S. used vehicle market
CNBC ^ | 3/25/23 | Michael Wayland

Posted on 03/26/2023 8:25:40 AM PDT by CFW

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To: Dr. Sivana

Regardless, manual transmissions in new cars is very rare.


21 posted on 03/26/2023 9:12:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: allendale

My last two cars have been 2008/2009 Mercedes Benz E350s. I’ve gotten close to 400,000 miles out of them so far. All of my next cars will be 2008/2009 Mercedes Benz E350s. I will not comply with the gubmint monitoring systems.


22 posted on 03/26/2023 9:28:50 AM PDT by j.frank.dobie
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To: CFW
Governments' response to Covid has caused harm to all aspects of our economy and society and our nation may never recover.

That was the plan all along ... and "15 days to flatten the curve" was the tipoff to the plan.

23 posted on 03/26/2023 9:30:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CFW

I got my old beater in 2006 for $5000 at a used dealer lot. Today, I see the same make model and year for over $8000. I was looking at used small pickups and 20 year old Toyota Tacomas are over $10k. We can really thank Obama’s cash for clunkers to get it all messed up.


24 posted on 03/26/2023 9:31:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: PIF; Dr. Sivana

“Regardless, manual transmissions in new cars is very rare.”

Unfortunately. Last info I had it was approaching <5%, and it was mostly two door sports/muscle cars. Never saw one in an SUV or similar vehicles which are replacing sedans. Not sure auto makers would offer one in an EV - they have enough problems with batteries.


25 posted on 03/26/2023 9:33:19 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Owen

“I have my doubts about the strategy of keeping cars for 30+ years.

What happens when you can’t get repair parts anymore?”

That’s why I own classic Chevies. There is a huge aftermarket for parts.Zero parts problems for my 67 Camaro or 57 Bel Air.

Or like my 49 Chevy pickup. It is hard to get parts for the rear end. So I will just swap it out to a modern one from the 2000s. I can get one for under $400.


26 posted on 03/26/2023 9:44:26 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

A manual transmission would make no sense in an EV.


27 posted on 03/26/2023 9:47:14 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Dr. Sivana

I was just drooling over the
Ford 7.3 Gasser.
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Will it fit my 2019 F250???
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GODZILLA !


28 posted on 03/26/2023 9:47:31 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Shown)
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To: Rural_Michigan

The mechanical diesels run fine on straight fryer oil as long as it’s filtered and run through a centrifugal filter.


29 posted on 03/26/2023 9:50:25 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
Not sure auto makers would offer one in an EV - they have enough problems with batteries.

A bit of poking around reveals that Tesla cars, at least, don't HAVE a transmission in the traditional sense. The motor seems to be directly connected to the wheels.

30 posted on 03/26/2023 9:56:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: V_TWIN

“… be THE greediest industry in America …”

That’s and competition is the free market.


31 posted on 03/26/2023 9:57:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: V_TWIN

“… be THE greediest industry in America …”

That’s and competition is the free market.


32 posted on 03/26/2023 9:57:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: CFW

I can’t help but think that Hussein’s “Cash For Clunkers” program might have something to do with this. Those beautiful cars being destroyed ... shameful. They weren’t all “clunkers”.


33 posted on 03/26/2023 10:03:02 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: CFW

So, unless something TRULY serious goes wrong, the “used car” I already own is the best used car I could buy anywhere, and no hugely increased monthly payments.

The vehicle I now have will probably be sold out of my estate inventory.


34 posted on 03/26/2023 10:10:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Why do you call everybody "@sshole"? Because it is gender neutral.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
The old '50s and '60s cars are fantastic, iconic for a reason. however in Cuba they cant get parts so they sort of make their own as I understand it. They run ... barely ... but look great in propaganda about what an island paradise it is.

Eventually if the government figures out that we are all keeping old cars going rather than buying this crummy first generation of EVs (they will get better, these suck) then they'll come for the parts market. They will not be denied.

35 posted on 03/26/2023 10:14:43 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: Organic Panic

“...20 year old Toyota Tacomas are over $10k. “

Tell me about it. Been looking for a used Taco or 4Runner here in FL. If you want under 160k miles, 4WD, automatic, with no history in the salt belt, it’s more like $20-27k. Or more. Oh, and no beachmobiles—salt air corrodes engine compartment and many other places.

It’s brutal.

About to pull the trigger on a 4Runner Limited, 2016, 100k miles...for $30k!!! 7 years old. Ugh.


36 posted on 03/26/2023 10:15:09 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

When Cuba is free, those folks are going to get rich becoming mechanics.


37 posted on 03/26/2023 10:16:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

” in Cuba they cant get parts so they sort of make their own as I understand it. They run ... barely”

But running “barely” is not what we are talking about here. My 67 Camaro has a 400HP engine and a 4 speed automatic. It weighs 3000 pounds versus some newer Camaros that weigh 3600. And a big difference is yes, you can make or swap out parts on the old cars which is near impossible on the new ones - actually illegal.


38 posted on 03/26/2023 10:23:43 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Fast Food and Children Hardest Hit !
Yikes


39 posted on 03/26/2023 10:26:09 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Shown)
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To: Owen
I have my doubts about the strategy of keeping cars for 30+ years.

What happens when you can’t get repair parts anymore?


Several suggestions:

1. Start with a car with a good track record (most Toyotas, A body Mopars from the early 70s and before, 3800 drivetrain GMs).

2. More electronics and luxury gizmos are to be avoided.


3. Pick a model that was popular with a long production run without too many changes: Ford Mustang, Volvo 240, original Volkswagen Beetle. You can buy ANY part for a mid-60's Mustang BRAND new, building one from scratch if need be.

4. Buy in the sun belt, because rust is the main enemy. ANYthing else can be fixed.

5. Some parts can be made with a 3D printer.

6. Some states allow old style replicars.
40 posted on 03/26/2023 10:31:33 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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