Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York

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[Jeremiah2911]

A Manhattan grand jury voted to indict Donald J. Trump on Thursday for his role in paying hush money to a porn star, according to four people with knowledge of the matter, a historic development that will shake up the 2024 presidential race and forever mark him as the nation’s first former president to face criminal charges.

[rfp1234]

It was the first state capital I could think of that’s not a democrap hellhole.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Excellent question.

I can hazard a guess…

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Trump is a narcissist who has foot-in-mouth disease."

The narcissist part is questionable in my opinion. Type A personality and Narcissist seem similar at first glance. Given he has achieved so much an outsider is left with his compassion for others. Which I believe he has demonstrated a number of times. Such as the homeless lady that lives in the Trump tower for free. Paying off a couple's home mortgage because they stopped to help fix his flat tire. many others.

Foot in mouth disease you call it. I call it knowing how to piss off the cabal. Which is why we love him. It's the only reason I really like the guy.

I asked Timber Rattler what the cabal is. He wouldn't respond. Meaning he either doesn't believe there is Central planning of our world. Which seems to many a great evil.

Not recognizing there is a central planning for our world leaves me questions about Timber Rattler observational skills.

I will ask you. Do you believe there is central planning taking place for our world? If so, are they good, bad or indifferent?

[thefactor]

I don't have to explain one single thing to you. But since I'm bored, I'll throw you a bone

I lived in NYC for 20 years before I got transferred for work. I saw Trump on local TV and read about him in the business and gossip sections of the local rags almost daily. I never really had anything against him even though he brazenly cheated on his wives and palled around with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and then Bill and Hillary when they came to NYC. One thing was clear: he was an ego maniac who would do absolutely anything to make a buck. And that's fine. We need people like that in NYC.

I voted for him twice. It was easy. I loved watching him spar with the press and call out liberals. It was the first time I saw a true non-politician dip his toe into politics. It was fun. He said what we all wished we could say to the media.

But that ended for me in 2020. He lost because he just could not shut up about himself. It was all about him. It was NEVER about America. It was about what HE did and how HE had been wronged and how everyone was out to get HIM.

Hundreds of lawyers and judges in several States tried to find evidence of fraud on a scale that could have altered the election. They did not find it. Trump should have let it go for the good of the country, but Trump is unable to do anything for anyone other than himself. Now he has become a caricature of his former self. His current opponents are Republicans who may challenge him in the primaries. He's now actually lifting up Democrats in order to rip down Republicans. I realize politics is dirty, but this is beyond the pale. He only cares about his power, his respect, his loyalty, not the country's.

I have made peace with the fact that if Trump is the nominee, I will leave that space blank on the ballot. I will not vote for a man who I do not believe has America's interests at heart. I will be grateful for what he did with SCOTUS (he doesn't deserve all the credit for that), but that's where it ends.

People on this site worship Trump. If Trump told them to give up their guns, they would say "let's hear him out" and it's disgraceful. Politicians work for us. They are not our friends. They are not infallible, and they are definitely NOT to be worshipped. I hope that helps, and if you don't care for my reasoning, I truly don't give a damn.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"I don't have to explain one single thing to you."

O'Kay

[Timber Rattler]

I asked Timber Rattler what the cabal is.

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Another damned conspiracy theory?

[thefactor]

I see by your idiotic response that you probably didn't even read my comment. People like you don't actually want a response to your rhetorical questions. You try to simply bully people into silence. You're not smart enough for actual debate on a topic.

Go worship your lord and savior Trump. Worship a man over Conservative ideas. See where that gets you.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Hundreds of lawyers and judges in several States tried to find evidence of fraud"

That was the problem. The courts required proof of fraud before they inspected the receipts.

When I inspect car as an example. I first see if the car starts. Then I see why it doesn't start and so on. The courts where asking for evidence that the gas station put water in the fuel without letting us examine the car or the gas stations fuel tanks.
The courts are still asking for evidence of fraud without examination in the Kari Lake cases. In both cases they're well aware of at least mismanagement of the elections and they refused to hear if there should be a new election based those problems.
Example: Fulton County Georgia 2020 is missing 97% of their authentic votes. This one county in Georgia, Fulton County is missing over 500,000 authentic votes with only 16,000 authentic votes. By law they must be authentic votes to be counted. This doesn't prove fraud. It proves mismanagement which they will not hear.

said, "People on this site worship Trump."
That is funny. I still think he could be part of the cabal and people like you would call me a Qtard that worships Trump.
As I know he was a tool of the Cabal pre-2008.

I call the cabal master infiltrators. Because for thousands of years they've been infiltrating every major religion, state and social institution world wide. They're not left or right wing (which is a psyops to divide.) For the most part they talk and act like you and I.

Even know I don't know for sure Trump isn't with the master infiltrators. He plays a good game at pissing them off. Thereby the infiltrators attack the people for their insubordination. This will hopefully spark a great awakening which we desperately need.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "I asked Timber Rattler what the cabal is. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Another damned conspiracy theory?"

Yes. It's a conspiracy. There is clearly a group of people working together to plan an over all project goal of our world. The only real question is how powerful are they?

Given Five Eyes (a tool) has been expanding and they don't even try to hide it anymore. Anyone that isn't aware of this conspiracy has very poor situational awareness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Other_international_cooperatives

[Bikkuri]

"IBTZ"

Sadly, that one gets LOTS of passes...

"They’re coming out of the woodwork."

Happens during every election 🤔🤨
Viking Kitties would be perfect here.. but I was too late to the party 😕 (and both are still spreading NeverTrumper info).

[Steve Van Doorn]

"I see by your idiotic response"
said, ""I don't have to explain one single thing to you."
O'Kay"
Yes. This response needed it's own post separate for the rest as it shown disdain against me.

[Timber Rattler]

You're nuts.

Get back to me when the Kraken is unleased. Trust in the plan, right?

[heavy metal]

the only nerve you hit was your nerve to double down on stupid...

[Steve Van Doorn]

Have you taken all your buster shots? They're safe and effective you know.

[grey_whiskers]

You sound vaccinated.
Go Friend Yourself in a close and intimate fashion.

[the OlLine Rebel]

“Thefactor” posted an excellent response to you. His very description of Trump’s behavior is why he is a narcissist and not just “Type A”. BTW one can be Type A without being a narcissist and definitely be narcissistic without being Type A. Type A relates to activity level. I KNOW people who are Type A and A+ and they are not narcissists (one worships Trump). Narcissists think they are the end-all be-all and everything is about them…how perfect they are, never wrong, but plenty wronged when not revered, etc.

That said, I appreciate your more metered response esp. to “tf”.

Unlike tf, I will vote Trump regardless if he is the Repub. I don’t want him and will be content if he disappears, but no way am I giving a Dem an extra point by not cancelling one of my treasonous neighbors’ votes.

[Timber Rattler]

You first, huckleberry.

[grey_whiskers]

Up. Yours.

You should have been banned long ago.

[Timber Rattler]

You should have been banned long ago.

For what, kemosabe?

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Narcissists think they are the end-all be-all and everything is about them…how perfect they are, never wrong, but plenty wronged when not revered, etc."

Yes. That is what bothers me about Trump and the injections. He hasn't come around even at this late date.