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Ukrainian Refugees in Munich – A Real Crisis
Armstrong Economics ^ | 5 Apr 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 04/05/2023 4:43:32 PM PDT by delta7

COMMENT: Hi Martin, I live in a commute in Munich in a nice neighborhood, I pay around 700 EUR rent for the smallest room, but we have a garden – and live with a few Ukrainians. They are very nice, seem like reasonable folks.

What I’m worried about though is the refugee system we have in place here in Bavaria. I wanted to move to another room, but I couldn’t: was kind of too expensive, 800 EUR/month. Guess who took it, another Ukrainian – of course, the state is paying it (“Arbeitsamt”). The crazy thing is that I’m having trouble with inflation and because I additionally have to pay taxes so that Ukrainians can live in the most luxurious room of the house for more than a year already. I would have no problem supporting them for a few months. But the thing is, a year has passed and they don’t even bother to search for work. They just go to German classes a few times a week. And spend most of the day talking and chilling in the kitchen. All of that while Munich is desperately searching for labour.

I also heard from sources, that they don’t really seem to be interested to work. A contact of mine offered them work, but they told him they can’t, as they are too busy learning German. Which I don’t understand, I see them all the time having fun in our kitchen. They don’t even really seem to learn German, one of them can’t say more than “Guten Tag” after one year of German classes…

Additionally, it seems like they are getting money from the state for leisure. As far as I have seen, they already went more often for traveling this past year through Europe than me. What I don’t understand, they also seem to be traveling back and forth to Ukraine to visit friends and family. I don’t get it, I thought that country was at war.

All in all, I think it’s good to help refugees. But when I have to suffer so that I can pay them to rent the best rooms in the house, while they have fun and are chilling in the kitchen, travel around Europe, even go visit their family in Ukraine while at war, and all that for more than a year, then the system doesn’t seem to be very fair to me, something doesn’t add up. Best,

REPLY: I am getting emails from all over describing the same problem. First, it was the pretend Syrian Refugees. The government even paid for them to take vacations. It just seems that we have the MOST unqualified people in governments everywhere. In France, it is merely the extension of the Yellow Vests, not simply about pensions. We see turmoil in Canada, and even in Britain. These countries treat their own people like slaves. The Biden Administration only wants to raise taxes on Americans to pay for funding the entire Ukrainian government paying all salaries of government workers and their pensions! Why would Zelensky ever want to seek peace if the money stopped flowing as a consequence?

We seem to be building into what the computer has been forecasting – a major wave of Civil Unrest on a global scale in the West.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armstrongfraudster; bloggers; europe; fakenews; fakerefugees; freeloaders; germany; grifters; punks; war; welfare
Well, well, well….
1 posted on 04/05/2023 4:43:32 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

At least these people are genuine refugees.

Unlike the barbarians who are invading Europe from points south.


2 posted on 04/05/2023 4:45:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

These “genuine refugees” should all go to the doorstep of Alvin Bragg, who probably doesn’t reside in NYC or anywhere near that hell-hole of western society.


3 posted on 04/05/2023 4:57:41 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: delta7

IBTAN


4 posted on 04/05/2023 5:00:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: delta7

Sorry for your troubles. We have that situation in the USA, too. Government taxes working citizens so the welfare types can buy foods they can’t afford. Insane, but until there’s a true revolution against transfer payments it’s our reality.


5 posted on 04/05/2023 5:05:49 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: BenLurkin

6 posted on 04/05/2023 5:05:53 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: delta7

I think Europeans simply HATE UKRAINIANS. Why else would they stand by when 250,000, or more have been killed?


7 posted on 04/05/2023 5:08:46 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

Stand by? Heck they’re funding those deaths. The EU is using Ukrainians as its mercenary army, and could care less how many of them get killed.


8 posted on 04/05/2023 5:11:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

At least these people are genuine refugees.
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Debatable, the area of western Ukraine is untouched and not ethnic Russians. Do be aware Ukraine was 40 million before war, now between 26-29 million. Ukraine is the poorest of all the EU, basically poverty level, and most will not return - essentially Ukraine has been de-populated.

Life on the EU welfare wagon is an improvement to many.


9 posted on 04/05/2023 5:27:44 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

“… the thing is, a year has passed and they don’t even bother to search for work. They just go to German classes a few times a week. And spend most of the day talking and chilling in the kitchen. All of that while Munich is desperately searching for labour.…”
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Well, to be fair, some spend time posting Ukrainian propaganda on social media.

Ain’t life grand!🤦🏼🤦🏼


10 posted on 04/05/2023 5:31:27 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: BobL

I think Europeans simply HATE UKRAINIANS.
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Well, the age old saying in Europe,” When shaking hands with a Ukrainian, be sure to check how many fingers he stole”, becoming obvious more every day to those that never have travelled the EU.


11 posted on 04/05/2023 5:47:53 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Is the high cost of rent got anything to do with the couple million folks from Syria being sponsored by the German Govt?


12 posted on 04/05/2023 5:51:48 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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To: delta7

For a Ukrainian learning German is about as difficult as an American learning Russian.

The Ukrainian language uses Cyrillic characters and the German language uses Latin characters.

What should be done is to use ‘cheat sheets’ so Ukrainians can do basic jobs in Germany.

German employers (Arbeitgebers) tend to want workers that are fluent in German.


13 posted on 04/05/2023 5:54:32 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: delta7

“Arbeitsamt”

Arbeit - work
Amt - office (of government)


14 posted on 04/05/2023 5:56:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: anthropocene_x

I suspect the Germans thought the Syrians were as prepared to work as Turks, but Turkey is a far more advanced country than Syria and the Turks came prepared to do work in Germany.

I believe the Syrians are mainly draft dodgers not wanting to fight for Assad (for good reason).


15 posted on 04/05/2023 6:00:02 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: delta7
I agree “Ukraine is the poorest of all the EU, basically poverty level, and most will not return - essentially Ukraine has been de-populated....Life on the EU welfare wagon is an improvement to many.”

This is just on of many who have written about fling put upon by Ukraines refugees. And we have only begun to feel the impact of all those illegals crossing our borders! Let's see how many will be working the fields “for a better life”.....so we should have no issues with farmers not having enough help now. HAA!

16 posted on 04/05/2023 6:21:44 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: caww

You all voted for the idiots that are doing this.


17 posted on 04/05/2023 7:28:22 PM PDT by 5inch38gunner
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To: delta7
Cancer stricken Putin weighs in on the subject.

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18 posted on 04/05/2023 10:23:30 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: delta7
My wife is a full-time teacher of (predominantly Ukrainian) refugees. Part of her work week consists of teaching online lessons which she administers from home, in our living room. As a retiree, I thus have ample opportunity to "listen in" on the instruction.

In addition to this, we also socialize with families of Ukrainian refugees. We also have friends who have welcomed Ukrainian refugees into their homes. Although most of our relatives are Russians, living in Russia, we also maintain contact with numerous Ukrainians who are 1) still in Ukraine (i.e., never left); 2) have, in the meantime, returned to Ukraine; 3) have left Germany and sought refuge in other European (chiefly: Baltic) countries; 4) have married Germans and are hence remaining in Germany.

The economic cost of housing, clothing, providing medical care to, etc. the Ukrainian refugees amounts to a fraction of one percent of the German Federal budget.

Regards,

19 posted on 04/05/2023 11:17:53 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Sounds like the native Germans could use some of those funds.


20 posted on 04/06/2023 8:48:25 AM PDT by binreadin
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