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NATO Special Forces enter Ukraine battlefield; Direct clash with Russia on the cards?
Hindustan Times ^ | 4/14/23 | Staff

Posted on 04/14/2023 1:18:58 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

NATO Special Forces are already present in Ukraine, leaked Pentagon documents have revealed, raising the fear of direct clash between the Russian forces and the Western military bloc. There is no clarity regarding the exact role of the NATO forces in Ukraine, but Moscow has been repeatedly saying that the military bloc is directly involved in the conflict.

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1 posted on 04/14/2023 1:18:58 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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1/5 If I remember correctly, this is illegal. NATO’s charter is defensive only and Russia has attacked no NATO countries.

But...but...but... Russia!!!

But...but...but... Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc!!!

2/5 Trump publicly confirmed the Obama State Dept was behind the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine [which has led to all of this mess]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Ta5gCw1xA&feature=share

Ukrainians legally elected a pro-Russian, Ukrainian president who pitched Russia’s aid package as opposed to his opponent who pitched the EU aid package for Ukraine and beat the pro-EU guy.

Neocons, Obama/Biden/Nuland: we were against Ukrainian sovereignty in 2014 before we were for it in 2022!

3/5 US: Belgium, Germany, Italy, etc, hosting U.S. nukes is part of NATO’s nuclear policy. UN: unacceptable for Russia to deploy nukes to Belarus, but because NATO deployed theirs a while ago it is okay for NATO to do this... Also UN: It is okay to invade Iraq, attack Libya, bomb Yemen, etc, etc.

Obama/Biden illegally got NATO to go against its defensive charter and bomb sovereign Libya on unproven allegations Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people, occupied sovereign Syria, bombed sovereign Yemen, etc.

4/5 Zelensky’s latest admission: In a recent interview with Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun he declared that “We do not have ammunition. For us the situation in the East is not good.”

Zelensky’s admission adds credence to what the Washington Post recently reported regarding how poorly Kiev’s forces are faring in this conflict, especially its “severe ammunition shortages” that one of its sources spoke about.

Ukrainian Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Marochko:

Kyiv’s forces are losing at least 500 fighters in the area of Bakhmut on a daily basis

5/5 Gravitas Plus (WION): Did NATO Push Ukraine Into War?

https://youtu.be/TzgPJeYZaOU


2 posted on 04/14/2023 1:20:22 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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How Did 21-Year Old Jack Teixeira Gain Access to the Documents He Leaked, and Why Were MSM Stories About Him Stealth-Edited?

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2023/04/13/how-did-jack-teixeira-gain-access-to-the-documents-he-leaked-and-why-were-msm-stories-about-him-stealth-edited-n730910

“... According to Jennifer Griffin at Fox News, he has a TS/SCI security clearance. Obviously, he would have access to classified information and documents given his job, but there are documents in the leak that someone in his position should not have had. Mere possession of a security clearance doesn’t equal legal access to all documents/information that exist at that level of classification. He also would have needed to know the information to perform his job duties.

referenced earlier, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday morning that investigators believed that the leaker was based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, at the time of the leak. After the Pentagon briefing and arrest, the story was significantly changed. From the original:

Investigators believe the leak of purported highly classified documents on Ukraine and dozens of other subjects likely originated from an Air National Guardsman who was based at Fort Bragg at the time of the leak, U.S. officials said, and an arrest could be made as early as Thursday.

The “updated” story made no reference to Fort Bragg, nor was there any note that significant changes had been made to it.

Curiously, an NBC News story about the imminent arrest and then the actual arrest was changed several times. ...”


3 posted on 04/14/2023 1:20:59 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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U.S. intel agencies may change how they monitor social media, chatrooms after missing leaked U.S. documents for weeks

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-intel-agencies-missed-classified-documents-leaked-on-discord-rcna79404?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=643711501d49bb0001313082&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

They really want that Oceanian Restrict Act


4 posted on 04/14/2023 1:33:58 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Watch out for finland. They just joined NATO and the russians are not real happy about having a NATO member on their border with the capacity to block access to their northern strategic assets. That’s where the flare point is IMO. The Ukraine is only a distraction from the real threat of global warfare.


5 posted on 04/14/2023 1:34:02 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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“these wonderful innovative and perceptive folks” want us in a war, no matter where, how, or who, to save their collective butts with all the stuff they advance and fail.


6 posted on 04/14/2023 1:37:37 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Watch out for finland. They just joined NATO

Bad move by Finland. Instead of 75 years of peace as a neutral buffer state, they just increased their risk of a conflagration by tenfold.

7 posted on 04/14/2023 1:39:44 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Military veterans from some NATO countries, are present in Ukraine and serving in combat. Plus military veterans from non-NATO countries.


8 posted on 04/14/2023 1:44:02 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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They aren’t up in arms over this leak because of anything like thar.


9 posted on 04/14/2023 1:47:38 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Oddly enough check this from wiki:

Country United States
Type Special Operations Forces
Part of United States Special Operations Command Insignia.svg Special Operations Command:
Army: United States Army Special Forces SSI (1958-2015).png 4th PSYOP Group
and 8th PSYOP Group
Air Force: 193d Special Operations Wing.png193d Special Operations Wing
Marine Corps: Marine Corps Information Operations Center.jpg Marine Corps Information Operations Center
Army Reserve: USCAPOC.jpg United States Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command
Navy Reserve: Naval Reserve Atlantic Fleet PSYOP Audiovisual Unit
Garrison/HQ Army: Fort Bragg, NC
Marine: Quantico, VA
Air Force: Middletown, PA
Navy: Norfolk, VA
Patron Saint Gabriel (Army)
Motto(s) “Persuade, Change, Influence”
(Army)
“Never Seen, Always Heard”
(Air Force)


10 posted on 04/14/2023 1:52:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
They just joined NATO

Bad move by Finland. Instead of 75 years of peace as a neutral buffer state, they just increased their risk of a conflagration by tenfold.

Right, Finland should have just relied on Putin honoring international treaties on boundaries. Why should Finland be worried Russia might invade neighboring independent countries? Idiocy

11 posted on 04/14/2023 2:15:37 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Ukrainians legally elected a pro-Russian, Ukrainian president who pitched Russia’s aid package as opposed to his opponent who pitched the EU aid package for Ukraine and beat the pro-EU guy.

You are lying. He was elected PROMISING TO JOIN THE EU and AFTER being elected, suddenly said Ukraine would join the Russian CIS. That's why there were large demonstrations.

There is NO WAY any Ukrainian candidate would win the presidency, by promising to join the Russian trading bloc instead of the EU.

Yanukovych has also promised to move ahead to meet EU requirements for signing a so-called Association Agreement, including a free-trade package that would help exporters gain more market share in the 27-nation bloc.

https://www.oscepa.org/en/news-a-media/press-releases/press-2010/yanukovych-wins-ukraines-presidential-election

12 posted on 04/14/2023 2:34:54 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Wrong, neocon.

Bringing Ukraine into a European Freed Trade arrangement with the EU, would have brought with it major dislocation costs for Ukraine and thus he supported the Russian proposal.

Point is, you deflect from the fact that you, tlozo, cannot say you support democracy and sovereignty when you support the following:

Again, Trump publicly confirmed the Obama State Dept was behind the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine [which has led to all of this mess]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Ta5gCw1xA&feature=share

You supporting what the Obama regime did shows you are anti-American, anti-democracy.

Neocons, Obama/Biden/Nuland: we were against Ukrainian sovereignty in 2014 before we were for it in 2022!

Here’s the solution, obfuscating neocon:

Russia leaves Ukraine and NATO goes back to its 1949 size.

China and the US both agree to close all their overseas bases; no empire for anyone.

All countries buy oil in their own currencies, thus ending the petrodollar and all oil based currencies and the rampant printing and spending of fiat money. Less need for a federal reserve, the federal debt can be paid back and we stop hurtling towards $50 trillion in debt and more.


13 posted on 04/14/2023 2:59:16 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Wrong, neocon.

Did the pro-Russian presidential candidate Yanukovitch run on joining the EU or not when he won?

Yanukovych has also promised to move ahead to meet EU requirements for signing a so-called Association Agreement, including a free-trade package that would help exporters gain more market share in the 27-nation bloc.

14 posted on 04/14/2023 3:04:37 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Bringing Ukraine into a European Freed Trade arrangement with the EU, would have brought with it major dislocation costs for Ukraine and thus he supported the Russian proposal.

LOL, yes why be a trade partner with the EU which has an economy 10 times the size of Russia? So which of the eastern European countries have rejected joining the EU, and instead joined the Russia-BananaStan Economic Trade Group(CIS)?

You're ridiculous.

15 posted on 04/14/2023 3:25:47 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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“You are lying. “

You are either lying yourself self, or an idiot, either is dangerous.


16 posted on 04/14/2023 3:39:51 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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If only the Republicans had control of the House of Representatives....


17 posted on 04/14/2023 3:56:08 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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No doubt Russians flying Migs in the Vietnam war are not to be thought of as Soviet intervention.


18 posted on 04/14/2023 3:57:54 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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"Military veterans from some NATO countries, are present in Ukraine..."

Roland the headless Thompson gunner?

19 posted on 04/14/2023 3:58:23 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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Now that the documents are out there, shouldn’t the discussion be about what the documents reveal, not how this horse got out of the barn.


20 posted on 04/14/2023 4:03:30 AM PDT by odawg
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