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Interesting idea. As I understand it, one of the roles of schools for leftist organizing is learning how to spot agents provocateur and grifters, something the right has shown it really isn't good at.
1 posted on 04/24/2023 2:35:42 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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The problem with the whole premise is that the Right doesn’t really want to win. They are all in on it. In other words, they are winning because they are succeeding in what they are doing as part of the Uniparty.


2 posted on 04/24/2023 2:42:00 PM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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First they have to even care whether they win or not. And they really do not care, they are all on the same side. All they care about is skimming dollars, not if they win or not.


3 posted on 04/24/2023 2:43:16 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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The democrats do things to win.

The republicans keep doing the things that lose.

That’s all there is to it really.


5 posted on 04/24/2023 2:45:29 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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You can 'organize' all you want.

It won't make a difference to conservatives having elections stolen from them as long as you have:

1. cheat-by-mail-in ballots with no signature verification.

2. no chain of custody for ballots that are trucked to a third party location to be 'counted.'

3. taking more than a week to declare a 'winner,' and during that week there are no observers 24-7 overseeing the count. A building 'closes' for the day, but then we find out later that it wasn't really 'closed' AND NOT A DAMNED THING IS DONE ABOUT IT. (Ask Laxalt)

All of the above were put into action on STEROIDS in 2020 because of the SCAMDEMIC (along with cooperation of RINO-controlled state legislatures), and that was what was 'different' about 2020.

All of the above were still in place during 2022. So instead of stealing from one man in 2020, the Uniparty cheated all MAGA candidates in 2022. Just ask Kari Lake.

8 posted on 04/24/2023 2:48:48 PM PDT by HandBasketHell
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There will never be another somewhat honest election.

In 2020 democrats demonstrated that there are no limits to the cheating they can do to steal
national elections without any significant push-back, punishment or other repercussions.

In fact, not only did many (most?) of the highest level and most powerful republicans NOT push-back and
demand action against the overt stealing of the 2020 election, most of them attacked and condemned any
republican who wouldn’t defend the “integrity” of the election and pretend the election was not stolen.


10 posted on 04/24/2023 2:58:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro ( Michael Byrd: "Well, Somebody had to do it - Babbitt wasn't gonna' shoot herself!")
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How many FReepers have attended CLI Conservative oops Campaign Leadership Institute?

Their classes effectively taught how to win primaries in red districts and red states. They did this by focusing on the reddest of red areas, the hard-Rs. Then enough soft Rs to push them over the top. They totally ignored the blue areas, whether they were 40% or 5% red. They especially ignored the purple areas.

Should we hope that CLI improves its ways?


11 posted on 04/24/2023 3:00:59 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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And they need to get off their moral high horse and start using lawfare against leaders of the left.


12 posted on 04/24/2023 3:11:09 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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Yeah, because the way Democrats have been doing things for all these years has worked so well, right?


13 posted on 04/24/2023 3:12:36 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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“Conservatives organizing” is an oxymoron.


14 posted on 04/24/2023 3:14:39 PM PDT by GingisK
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It also needs to stop being Me Too Republicans and actually dare to stand apart from Democrats in what they do, and not just what they say every other year.


15 posted on 04/24/2023 3:16:14 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It is called total war, folks. Get used to that term.


19 posted on 04/24/2023 3:51:38 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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The right is impressed with “indignation.”
The left burns the building down.


20 posted on 04/24/2023 3:52:20 PM PDT by Paraclete
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Yawn... So much overthinking by soyboys for soyboys... Wake me and the rest of the men when it’s time to take out the trash.


23 posted on 04/24/2023 4:11:40 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavetz)
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Beginning with 2018 the Right has gone into alley fights obeying Marquis of Queensbury rules. No surprise at the outcomes.


27 posted on 04/24/2023 5:07:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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The Dung Beetle Party gave up the “That’s Not How We Do Things” approach a couple hundred years ago. Now, it’s “WHATEVER IT TAKES”. That’s how a bunch of losers became winners and got an azzho like Bidenskkkyyyy into the White House.


29 posted on 04/24/2023 6:06:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to indict the Dung Beetle Party's token affirmative action chubby cheeked shyster lawyer.)
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