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NYT Columnist Says Homeowners Should Get This For Protection Instead of Firearms
Townhall ^ | 04/25/2023 | Julio Rosas

Posted on 04/25/2023 11:02:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof posited the idea in a recent piece that people who are worried about people breaking into their homes should get bear spray for self-defense instead of a firearm.

Kristof wrote about the idea after home shootings involving Ralph Yarl and Kaylin Gillis.

Elsewhere, brutes send their victims to the E.R.; in America, they send them to their graves. Foreigners admire our popular culture, our technology, our lifestyle, but are bewildered by our refusal to rein in guns. 

In the 1990s when I was Tokyo bureau chief of The Times, Japanese people regularly spoke to me about a 1992 incident in which a 16-year-old Japanese exchange student, Yoshihiro Hattori, was shot dead in Louisiana after knocking on the wrong door. The homeowner said he thought the boy was a burglar and ordered him to 'freeze'; Hattori perhaps didn’t understand 'freeze' or misheard the man as saying 'please.' In any case, the boy moved, and the man shot him with a .44 magnum.

 "I backpack, and it's well known that bear spray is more effective against a charging grizzly than a handgun. Probably also more effective against a home invader. Think of it as harm reduction," he tweeted.

We could even encourage worried homeowners to buy bear spray for protection. I backpack, and it's well known that bear spray is more effective against a charging grizzly than a handgun. Probably also more effective against a home invader. Think of it as harm reduction.— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) April 22, 2023

"We accept inconveniences to reduce auto fatalities: seatbelts, speed limits, no riding in the backs of pickup trucks. So why don't we accept tradeoffs to reduce gun mortality? In MS, it's easier to buy an AR-15 than to adopt a Chihuahua. Why should that be?" he further tweeted.

Kristof was predictably mocked for the idea of using bear mace:

You do realize that indoors, bear spray would affect the intruder and the homeowner?

If you don’t understand what you are talking about, just set this one out and let the adults handle it.— Cavalry Doc (@desertveteran) April 23, 2023

While painful, bear spray is weaker than pepper spray - designed for use on an animal with 1000x more sensitive sense of smell.
Legally, you can be in jeopardy if you use bear spray as a self-defense tool .
Poor survival advice against asocial violence.https://t.co/imvsbtBKGQ
— Joel (@joelgaines) April 24, 2023

You've obviously never fished in Alaska, where every other fisherman has a 454 Casull on their hip because of grizzlies and brown bear, not spicy perfume.— LeeRoyJenkins® (@NunyaBiznnes) April 24, 2023



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bloggers; banglist; bearspray; bloggers; firearms; guns; homedefense; nyt; pepperspray; protection; selfprotection
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1 posted on 04/25/2023 11:02:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If you give up your guns and get bear spray instead, it’s only a matter of time until they make bear spray illegal and come to take it.


2 posted on 04/25/2023 11:07:56 AM PDT by I want the USA back (No one is assigned sex at birth. One's sex is noted and recorded. My pronouns Haha, hehe, hoho, hoo )
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To: SeekAndFind

This Kristof goofball used to write trash my local fish wraps carried back in the Reagan years. First class idiot.


3 posted on 04/25/2023 11:08:37 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: SeekAndFind

“Foreigners are bewildered by our refusal to rein in guns.”

Are they really? I wonder if they are really that stupid.


4 posted on 04/25/2023 11:08:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmmm... would bear spray work if the bear had a gun?


5 posted on 04/25/2023 11:10:11 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

For all the talk bear spray is less potent than mace.


6 posted on 04/25/2023 11:11:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: SeekAndFind

No one needs to own a large-capacity bear spray canister.


7 posted on 04/25/2023 11:12:31 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BenLurkin

Couldn’t care less about what foreigners think. I notice nobody cares about my opinion of them.


8 posted on 04/25/2023 11:12:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SeekAndFind

“”We accept inconveniences to reduce auto fatalities: seatbelts, speed limits, no riding in the backs of pickup trucks. So why don’t we accept tradeoffs to reduce gun mortality?””

Well … in most auto incidents, there is no malice or intent to harm, whereas the act of burglary shows intent implied by its existence.


9 posted on 04/25/2023 11:14:18 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (“Salute the Marines.” - Joe )
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Why not bear spray AND a gun? Bear spray and SEVERAL guns! And one or two of those handheld small flame-throwers. And a couple of dobermans. I mean, do we HAVE to choose one...? That’s the question everyone should be asking.


10 posted on 04/25/2023 11:14:27 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (My aluminum baseball bat keeps telling me it wants to talk to J3rry S3infeld. )
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To: PROCON

LOL!!!


11 posted on 04/25/2023 11:14:42 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats and other socialists should be limited to carrying Glade air freshener. I heard that it will stop a charging grizzly schizophrenic at two yards.


12 posted on 04/25/2023 11:15:06 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not both?


13 posted on 04/25/2023 11:15:24 AM PDT by Krosan
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In MS, it's easier to buy an AR-15 than to adopt a Chihuahua. Why should that be?"

The right to keep and bear arms is specifically enumerated in our Constitution for one. States have great leeway regarding commerce within the state, especially for known pest species.

14 posted on 04/25/2023 11:15:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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I backpack...

Qualifications, or lack thereof, noted.

15 posted on 04/25/2023 11:16:52 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Coffee... Black... No Sugar

In a lot of vehicle accidents there is a lot of idiocy and gross negligence. That tends to kind of make others irate.


16 posted on 04/25/2023 11:18:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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"I backpack, and it's well known that bear spray is more effective against a charging grizzly than a handgun.

That's because grizzlies weigh 3 or 4 times what a human adult male does. A handgun will not take them down. A shotgun or rifle will. Meanwhile, handguns are perfect at taking down charging human assailants - that's why they were invented in the first place. They also don't stand a good chance of incapacitating the victim of a crime as well as the assailant, as bear spray is likely to do.
17 posted on 04/25/2023 11:18:59 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

Ha! Spraying bear spray in an enclosed room would be pretty bad on me too.


18 posted on 04/25/2023 11:23:30 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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RE: Why not both?

I take it that the NYT columnist dislikes someone getting killed. Unfortunately he does not consider the possibility that the victim COULD be killed without firearms to protect him.


19 posted on 04/25/2023 11:26:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Handguns take bears down all the time. It’s good to know what you are doing and talking about.


20 posted on 04/25/2023 11:27:22 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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