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Biden vs. Trump 2024 would be the rematch nobody wants Analysis: Recent NBC News polling found that a majority of voters don’t want President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump to run again.
NBC News ^ | April 25, 2023 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 04/27/2023 8:08:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden's 2024 campaign launch on Tuesday pushes America one step closer to Biden-Trump II, the rematch voters don't want.

Biden has no serious challenger for the Democratic nomination, and former President Donald Trump is the clear front-runner for a third straight Republican nod.

Ironically, a return engagement looks increasingly likely at a time when the vast majority of Americans believe the country the two men led back-to-back is on the wrong track. More pointedly, in an NBC News survey released Sunday, 70 percent of respondents said Biden shouldn't run, and 60 percent said Trump shouldn't.

To add to the sense of stagnancy, most polls show the longtime rivals within a few points of each other, suggesting there has not been a seismic political shift in the country since Biden won the 2020 electoral college on the strength of statistically narrow victories in several key states.

“Culturally, society is used to new forms of entertainment,” said Faiz Shakir, who managed the 2020 Democratic primary campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. “A re-run, understandably to this generation of Americans, is not as exciting.”

Trump, impeached twice and under indictment in New York, casts the choice in apocalyptic terms by telling voters that he is the only candidate who can stop World War III. He also vows to bolster the economy, appoint conservative judges to the bench and establish 10 "freedom cities" on federal land.

Democrats are of two minds when it comes to Trump. On a purely political level, they see a useful foil who was the dominant figure in three consecutive disappointing elections for national Republicans. But they also view Trump as an existential threat to the sanctity of the republic. In a statement Monday timed to pre-empt Biden's launch, Trump reiterated false claims that his 2020 defeat was “rigged,” a lie that inspired the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Pete Giangreco, a veteran consultant who advised Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., during her 2020 bid for the Democratic nomination, said Biden will be helped by what he described as the extremism of Trump and his allies in Congress.

"This is a Republican Party that has unglued itself from both traditional conservatism and reality," he said.

But like some other Democrats, he is concerned about the electorate's perception of an economy that Biden credits himself with saving from the doldrums of the pandemic.

"There’s just a lot of people who, despite the numbers, have a pretty negative view of the economy," Giangreco said. "Even if the inflation number was cut in half between now and next year, it’s still hard to convince people of any good news."

The rate of inflation and wage stagnation are two data points Trump uses to argue that Biden has been a flop on the economy. In Trump's version of the nation's recent history, he was a victim of circumstance because of the economic wreckage wrought by the pandemic and should be credited for beginning to mend it.

"President Trump created the greatest economy our country has ever had — twice as a matter of fact," Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller said. "And he's ready to do it again."

It seems inevitable that if the two men square off again — Trump still has to win the GOP nomination for that to happen — the rematch will be framed around Trump. Democrats say that will be helpful to them.

"It's going to be very hard to move voters in terms of their opinion of Donald Trump," Rep. Brendan Boyle, D-Pa. "A clear majority of Americans have a negative view of former President Trump."

That's true, but Biden's approval ratings are also below the water line: the NBC survey showed that 38 percent of adults see him in a positive light, while Trump's number was at 34 percent.

Both men are leaning heavily on their records to act as validators for what they would do with a second term, which points to their myriad differences in the realms of politics, policy and personality.

"There has never been a greater contrast between two successive administrations in all of American history," Trump said in his statement Monday. "Ours being greatness, and theirs being failure."

But Giangreco said Trump is backing himself into a corner.

"Presidential elections are almost always about the future, and there’s no way that Donald Trump is the future," Giangreco said. "Oddly enough, Joe Biden’s the future and Donald Trump’s the past."

Still, voters may be forgiven if they are starting to feel a sense of deja vu from both candidates, their campaigns and their political allies.

Brendan Buck, a longtime GOP strategist, predicted that the sequel to the last election would draw plenty of intense interest, largely because of the challenger's ability to focus media attention on himself.

“In a normal world you might expect this to drag down enthusiasm, but Trump will take care of that,” Buck said. “If this is the matchup we end up with, it won’t be a boring election, and it won’t lack for turnout.”

Biden's approval numbers are deceptively soft, Shakir said, because some progressives would like to see him move further in their direction. Those voters will show up to support him next year, Shakir added, because of the contrast between the candidates.

"You start off at an advantage," he said, citing abortion and "good, competent governance" among topics that he believes favor Biden. But he and other Democratic strategists say they see a close race shaping up that Trump could win.

"It would largely have to be prosecuted on the economy and raising questions and concerns about the economic direction of this country," Shakir said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0001absurdbs; biden; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; potus2024; trump
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1 posted on 04/27/2023 8:08:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Bull. The polls have Trump on top everywhere. The American people want Trump.


2 posted on 04/27/2023 8:13:15 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: DoodleBob

I guess I am not “nobody” because I relish a rematch!!!


3 posted on 04/27/2023 8:14:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DoodleBob

Do the people know it isn’t them but the drama that unfolds that bares our government as a wicked deception?

People don’t like reality.


4 posted on 04/27/2023 8:16:22 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Yup

He needs to stop attacking weaker people though. Not good strategy.


5 posted on 04/27/2023 8:19:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DoodleBob

NBC, and all the left-wing media, and Biden and all democrats, don’t want that election rematch to happen...

because....

it would put the 2020 lie in focus.

It’s a fear that the left has been trying to hide since the 2020 election, and that fear is about to be tested.

Trump has already declared, and Biden has also declared... or has he?

Biden had to declare in order to not become a lame duck president. But , his declaration is only temporary, and he has the option of dropping out long before the election, while other democrat contenders prepare for the primaries in the background. Thus, there are other candidates and more to come who are prepping to replace Biden, who is a contender, but only temporarily.

There won’t be a Trump/Biden rematch, and that would please NBC and all the other left-wingers who don’t want Biden to be embarrassed with a big loss.


6 posted on 04/27/2023 8:27:01 PM PDT by adorno
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To: DoodleBob
Biden vs. Trump 2024 would be the rematch nobody wants Analysis: Recent NBC News polling found that a majority of voters don’t want President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump to run again.

there. fixed it.

7 posted on 04/27/2023 8:27:58 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: DoodleBob

Not as if anyone exactly is stepping up.

We’ve reached the point where good people simply don’t want the job.

That’s how Republics die.


8 posted on 04/27/2023 8:28:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob
NBC News polling

95% bullshit probability.

9 posted on 04/27/2023 8:31:27 PM PDT by tomkat (SOTU = FUBAR)
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To: DoodleBob

I guess Democrat and Republican voters will choose someone from the strong “talent pool” I keep hearing about.

Oh wait!

Political reality says they’re going with the horses “they know.”


10 posted on 04/27/2023 8:31:29 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: adorno
Biden had to declare in order to not become a lame duck president. But , his declaration is only temporary, and he has the option of dropping

Rest assured....he will be dropping in his drawers if not dropping his drawers a few times before "primary season"...unavoidably on camera.

11 posted on 04/27/2023 8:46:06 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
The American people want Trump.

Yeah, but not everywhere. I think the election would be a repeat, with Trump falling to Biden in places like Pennsylvania.

12 posted on 04/27/2023 8:52:51 PM PDT by rexthecat
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Nope. Polls are mixed.


13 posted on 04/28/2023 12:06:44 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: DoodleBob

NBC. Nothing But Crap.


14 posted on 04/28/2023 12:21:45 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: DoodleBob

“a majority of voters don’t want President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump to run again.”

That’s like saying that nobody uses email anymore.


15 posted on 04/28/2023 1:41:43 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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2024 will be a repeat of 2020 with Biden taking at least 306 electoral votes and Trump getting 232 electoral votes or fewer.
Time will tell.


16 posted on 04/28/2023 1:58:44 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“The polls have Trump on top everywhere.”

Including a hypothetical match with Biden?


17 posted on 04/28/2023 4:53:21 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: DoodleBob

NBC say’s ,hahahahahahahahahahahah spit ,choke, hahahahahahahahah


18 posted on 04/28/2023 4:59:05 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: DoodleBob

The most respected American voice for communism in the US, NBC News. When have they ever told the truth?


19 posted on 04/28/2023 5:03:44 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: kenmcg

“Feb 22, 2010 · Jonathan Allen has left Wasserman Schultz’s political action committee to make the transition back to journalism at POLITICO.” Allen has been, is now, and ever will be a Dem flack.


20 posted on 04/28/2023 5:29:05 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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