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Should Hemingway be re-edited for antisemitism?
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/370893 ^ | 3/5/23 | Jack Engelhard

Posted on 05/03/2023 2:25:28 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

Ian Fleming (James Bond) is among the writers undergoing posthumous editing for content unsuitable for today’s readers.

As he is dead, he has no choice in the matter.

We are all familiar with book banning and book burning. Can anything be worse? Yes, changing a writer’s intent, dead or alive, through sensitivity editing.

Some writers, nowadays, agree to go along to get along.

That’s too bad.

True writers value each word they write.

Hemingway spoke of the search for the “perfect sentence,” and quite often he clicked, if he can be forgiven for his mistreatment of Robert Cohn in “The Sun Also Rises.”

Often enough, a single word makes all the difference. There was consternation over Rhett Butler’s exit line in “Gone with the Wind.”

In the end, “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn,” was kept as written, over “give a darn,” which had been offered to please the censors.

Imagine our cultural and literary loss had Margaret Mitchell or the producers relented for the sake of placating the guardians of “good taste.”

The effect would have been bloody murder in terms of our Literature.

A single word, kept true, and it’s a different world…a world we truly live in, warts and all.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; commie; dontreadhemingway; hemingway; literature; prosoviet; woke
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To: ifinnegan

A copyright can be renewed


81 posted on 05/04/2023 6:07:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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No. Though I agree with the author, it's worth noting he neglects to identify who wants Hemingway re-edited.

82 posted on 05/04/2023 6:09:03 AM PDT by SJackson (he who controls the schools, controls the world, 1870s France)
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To: leaning conservative

The left is creating their own history.

The original books are still out there.

Are they gonna grab them all and red pencil them?

Even million dollar 1st editions?

Not gonna get mine!


83 posted on 05/04/2023 6:27:05 AM PDT by Syncro (Truth and Facts)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Well, there’s always Margo.

LEAVE HER ALONE!


84 posted on 05/04/2023 6:28:46 AM PDT by Syncro (Truth and Facts)
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To: Songcraft
I didn't post it for 'they', but for some here that may not be as informed.


11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”


Romans 10:14-15

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in?
And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard?
And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent?

As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”


(Do NOT make me post images of my feet!)

85 posted on 05/04/2023 6:30:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Eleutheria5

I own real books that can’t be edited. How long before that becomes a crime?


86 posted on 05/04/2023 6:55:22 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Eleutheria5
Most fairy tales were never meant for young children. Certainly not young children as ignorant as the ones we raise today.

I tended to stick to Beatrix Potter and other stories mean for the very young when they were very young. The fairy books by Andrew Lang can wait until they are able to read well enough to read to themselves.

87 posted on 05/04/2023 7:18:51 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Spok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BBzMWHXD3w


88 posted on 05/04/2023 8:46:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: cherry

I collect mostly reference and “how to” material, including encyclopedias, almanacs and dictionaries. All of this stuff is going to be tinkered with online, and the only way people will be able to push back will be with hard copy source material.


89 posted on 05/04/2023 10:28:02 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: Elsie

Well, we're talking about two different things here then, Elsie.   In my initial post to you (#72), I said to do a google search for "bible view on homosexuality" (without the quotes).   The suggested links that come back from google have nothing to do with FReepers, but rather, pertain to various denominational "leaders", "Bible scholars", "Bible experts", etc., who are all pushing for "woke" reinterpretations/reframing/revisionisms of the traditional understanding of various Biblical references, particularly as they pertain to homosexual activities and practices.

(If you do that google search that I suggested, you'll see exactly what I mean.)

I don't think any FReepers here think that way.   I've never seen anything espousing reinterpretative homo biblical views like that posted here.

90 posted on 05/04/2023 11:53:14 AM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes. That’s why most of Hemingway’s writings are still under copyright.


91 posted on 05/04/2023 2:30:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to se)
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To: Eleutheria5

Whatever.

Just so long as they don’t re-animate the guy.


92 posted on 05/04/2023 2:31:35 PM PDT by x
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Never say never. The original Pinocchio squished Jiminy Cricket right at the start. The stories can be re-told, so long as the original is available for purists. If you burn or ban the original, you’re not just retelling it in a new version. You’re also censoring the original author.

Huckleberry Finn was raised by his racist Pa to be a racist. His constant use of the N word strengthens the ending, where he finally comes to think of Jim as a good man, and learns from Jim of Pa’s death in the flood. But that doesn’t mean that every film version has to constantly use the N word, either. So long as the book remains intact, history and literature are served.

Just like so long as the book Oliver Twist remains intact and unchanged, we can laugh at and enjoy the sanitized Fagan singing and dancing in the musical, and still read Dickens to see him as Dickens intended him, sniveling, conniving and greedy.


93 posted on 05/04/2023 4:13:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: Songcraft

I have seen how the ‘woke’ leave out important scripture and re-’interpret’ relevant scripture.

They get really selective.


94 posted on 05/04/2023 4:26:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Eleutheria5
Yeah, I can say never when it comes to the original fairy tales not being for children. By that I mean the under seven set. Once you were seven or so you were expected to start to shoulder your share of things as a stripling and you no longer needed to be so protected. By the time you were in your mid-teens you were considered nearly if not actually an adult.

The small ones do not need to hear what was probably the original Beauty and the Beast (Eros and Psyche with the mother-in-law from hell Aphrodite) or that Ganymede was a prepubescent Trojan prince who was kidnapped and forced to be a catamite, passed around like a party favor. You are right that people can soften them and that is fine as long as they leave the original be.

And that is not what they are doing.

I had some older books that I read that when I found later edition they weren't the same. They were not officially labeled as rewritten but they were. And that is what they mean to do here.

Just a little change, a trifle. And next thing Ganymede is not a tale about how being pretty is not necessarily a good thing and becomes a "Pride Tale" about how a young boy being buggered is the bestest thing ever.

95 posted on 05/04/2023 4:57:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Well, then, damn “them” for their literary crimes, and for what “they” are trying to do to Hemingway, who never wrote Sun Also Rises for woke snowflake kids.


96 posted on 05/04/2023 5:04:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: Eleutheria5
That is how I feel but then I sell book for a living.

It was harder to do this when books were printed but now many of them are electronic. And that makes them very easy to change. You do not actually own that electronic book. Just a license to access it. And who ever runs the service can change it as they wish.

And many of the original physical books are being pulped.

97 posted on 05/04/2023 5:10:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

This is why it pays to learn classical languages. Whatever they do to the English translations and adaptations, the originals will live on in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Aramaic and Sanskrit.

Winston Churchill as a boy refused to learn Latin and Greek and was beaten for it in school, but he was adamant. And he was also wrong, though admirable even then for his will power. Ironically, in Between Tears and Laughter, Doubleday, 1940, Lin Yutang calls him out for his wrong-headed statecraft vis a vis China, as a poor Greek student.


98 posted on 05/04/2023 10:39:47 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: Eleutheria5

Will they rewrite The Merchant of Venice?


99 posted on 05/06/2023 6:24:15 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat

Gotta have their pound of woke.


100 posted on 05/06/2023 11:30:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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