Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Yes, Trump Can Win Again The persistent naysayers need to take a lesson from Reagan.
The American Spectator ^ | May 4, 2023, 11:08 PM | JEFFREY LORD

Posted on 05/05/2023 10:33:03 AM PDT by conservative98

As Ronald Reagan might say — there they go again.

The “they” this time around is the Never Trump chorus insisting that not only can’t former President Donald Trump win the 2024 election, but he shouldn’t even be trying.

Whether it’s Bush-cheerleader Karl Rove in the Wall Street Journal, or, in the same place, Ruth R. Wisse, a professor emerita at Harvard University, or the esteemed Andrew C. McCarthy over at National Review, or more scattered over the political landscape, the Trump naysayers are out in force, predicting, of course, that the former president’s reelection bid is dead in the water — or should be, if it isn’t already.

And they would be wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; andrewcmccarthy; bush; bushies; gope; gopestablishment; jeffreylord; karlrove; nationalreview; neverreagan; nevertrump; nevertrumpers; reagan; romney; ruthrwisse; trump; trump2024; wsj
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 next last
To: conservative98
Point is they said they both couldn’t win and they both won. It can and will happen again.

That is faulty logic because it ignores a key variable. Conservatives need to get better at intellectual arguments.

21 posted on 05/05/2023 11:17:23 AM PDT by nwrep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

Comment #22 Removed by Moderator

To: lonestar67

The 2008 election was rather powerful but an incredible number of voters rejected them in 2012 and they narrowly won.
!!!!!
The difference in the numbers between 2008 and 2012 tells me that the 2012 election was stolen too.
Obama won by carrying 883 counties in 2008 .
He carried 673 in 2022.

Joe is said to have received 81.3 million votes after cayying 507 counties.
376 less counties than 2008 12 million more votes.. nope


23 posted on 05/05/2023 11:21:34 AM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: conservative98

He can only win if he cheats better than the Rats.


24 posted on 05/05/2023 11:21:40 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: conservative98

If Biden is Trump’s opponent, it will be a landslide.


25 posted on 05/05/2023 11:23:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro

If Biden is Trump’s opponent, it will be a landslide.

***********

Which way?


26 posted on 05/05/2023 11:30:22 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

Comment #27 Removed by Moderator

To: lonestar67

Obama received 69 million votes in 2008 and 66 million in 2012. McCain received 60 million votes in 2008 and Romney received 61 million in 2012.

Obama won the electoral vote in 2008 with 365 to 173. In 2012 Obama won 332-206. Obama’s win in 2012 could hardly be described as “narrowly” wining. He drubbed Romney despite receiving 3.5 million fewer votes than in 2008.

The real anomaly is that Trump received 11 million more votes in 2020 and still “lost.” No sitting President has ever lost when receiving more votes in his reelection bid. Trump increased his total by almost 18%. Trump won 17 of the 18 bellwether counties and still “lost.

Biden received 15 million more votes than Hillary, an astounding 23% increase. No way he received 81 million legal votes. The election was stolen.

The Trump naysayers fail to mention his fantastic performance in 2020.


28 posted on 05/05/2023 11:34:46 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ping jockey

Demorats simply want another run between Trump and Biden....they already have their system fine tuned for the next ‘steal’....their game is just like before and most have taken the bait.


29 posted on 05/05/2023 11:35:55 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: unclebankster

Trump wins 45 states.


30 posted on 05/05/2023 11:37:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: conservative98

In a fair election, sure. What has been done to ensure that?


31 posted on 05/05/2023 11:41:13 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro

Trump wins 45 states.

***************

Wow!

I didn’t see that coming and I’m a hardcore Trump supporter.
30 to 33 states plus an EV from Maine was my predicted ceiling for Trump.

I like your electoral map much better.


32 posted on 05/05/2023 11:47:06 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: unclebankster

People don’t realize that even though the media has covered for Biden, they can’t cover it up forever thanks to a GOP House.

Not only will his poor economy hurt him, but the illegals at the border, inflation, Hunter will be formally charged, Biden’s involvement will come out, Ukraine will become a major problem, and Biden’s dementia will worsen so he cannot ever do press conferences.


33 posted on 05/05/2023 11:50:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro

People don’t realize that even though the media has covered for Biden, they can’t cover it up forever thanks to a GOP House.

Not only will his poor economy hurt him, but the illegals at the border, inflation, Hunter will be formally charged, Biden’s involvement will come out, Ukraine will become a major problem, and Biden’s dementia will worsen so he cannot ever do press conferences.

*******

You’re on to something.

I read little democrats everyday and their focus is on evil Republicans 24/7, they want Biden giving speeches denouncing McCarthy & House Republicans.(But have no idea why he isn’t)

Most of them haven’t been paying attention to Biden’s decline, so when his condition gets exposed, it’ll be a shocker.


34 posted on 05/05/2023 11:59:08 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: conservative98

Democratic ballot harvesting operations have reached such heights of sophistication that they can parachute into decisive battlegrounds and scare up enough votes among ignorant and unmotivated citizens to overcome the natural enthusiasm of informed and self-motivated voters.


35 posted on 05/05/2023 12:04:39 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: metmom

“The democrats will not allow another honest election.”

It doesn’t matter who wins. It’s who finally gets installed that counts, eg., FJB and K. Hobbs.


36 posted on 05/05/2023 12:30:15 PM PDT by Gideon300
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: mosaicwolf

“The communists will do whatever it takes to jail Trump before the election.”

A year or so ago there was an “election” in Nicaragua. Several opposition party candidates were openly allowed to run against Daniel Orgega for president. Strangly enough, before election day ALL the opposition were investigated and found guilty of “something” and sent to jail. As criminals they were ineligible to run again in the future. Some are probably still in jail and others quietly disappeared.

Democrat tactics.


37 posted on 05/05/2023 12:41:05 PM PDT by Gideon300
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: kabar

I think you make great analysis.

I think the ominous and central reality for theft has to do with the 40% of ballots cast by mail in 2020.

I think it is quite possible that the number of mail in ballots declines markedly because of the absence of COVID hysteria. I think that can bring an exponential decline in magic Biden votes. Your point about Trump’s increase is very important in light of how bad the last incumbent president —Obama — did by comparison.

It is also possible as crazy as it seems to naysayers that Trump’s team could increase his voters by additional millions in 2024. Tens of millions of people always do not vote. Bush did strange things in 2004 to increase voting that included getting Amish people in Ohio to vote. Christians as a group remain shockingly untapped and likely to vote for a Trump ticket if the hard ground work is done. Much was done to boost Trump in 2020 and those dimensions should be accelerated.

I am confident that Biden will get many millions fewer votes in 2024 than he got in 2020. Trump can definitely win in 2024 but there are challenges.


38 posted on 05/05/2023 12:41:56 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: conservative98
"And this tough-guy strategy will in fact be used again in 2024, no matter who the GOP nominee is. If Donald Trump vanished from the 2024 race tomorrow, the Democrat strategy used to smear Romney in 2012 would be rolled onto the political field whether the nominee’s name be Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Asa Hutchinson, Vivek Ramaswamy, or any other GOP candidate not named Trump."

This is some silly shit. President Trump is a known entity. Romney was a Mormon stillbirth who peaked in the 1st Debate and promptly threw it away to Fat Crowley because he knew in his heart he did not want to be the person who denied America's first ineligible hoodoo hepcat a second term.

39 posted on 05/05/2023 12:58:00 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: conservative98

If the election was fair......Trump would win in a LANDSLIDE like he did in 2020


40 posted on 05/05/2023 1:00:23 PM PDT by afchief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson