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Citing ‘plenary powers,’ GOP leader claims a non-binding resolution bans Arizona election machines
AZMirror ^ | 5/22/23 | JEROD MACDONALD-EVOY

Posted on 05/22/2023 3:01:33 PM PDT by CFW

Claiming that a non-binding resolution overrides state law, an Arizona Republican state senator on Monday declared that Arizona counties are barred from using machines to count ballots — an assertion that was quickly shot down by elections officials, the state’s attorney general and county leaders.

Senate Majority Leader Sonny Borrelli penned a letter to all 15 Arizona counties on Monday, telling them that they were barred from using any machines to administer future elections. He claimed that the legislature’s recent approval of Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 was binding under a radical interpretation of a constitutional provision that would effectively allow state legislatures to do whatever they want with elections.

The core of the so-called “plenary powers” theory is that legislatures can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances by the judicial or executive branches.

(Excerpt) Read more at azmirror.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; ban; bydominion; electronicvoting; senate
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This could be a game changer. Good for the Arizona Senate leader!
1 posted on 05/22/2023 3:01:33 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

This is from a left-supporting site, but it is the only place I could find that was reporting on the Arizona Senate leader’s statement and press release from earlier today.


2 posted on 05/22/2023 3:03:35 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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This is where I originally saw the reporting:

“BREAKING

AZ Senate Majority Leader Sonny Borelli issues letter to every county election office notifying them no electronic voting machine can be used in ‘24 election

Katie Hobbs vetoed law, but Constitution gives plenary authority to state legislature so they’re overriding her”.

The link below includes the press release from the AZ GOP Senate majority leader.

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1660717421710155780


3 posted on 05/22/2023 3:06:56 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: CFW

He CaNt Do ThAt He HaS tO fOlLoW tHe lAw! StUpId GOP FaScIsTs!


4 posted on 05/22/2023 3:08:36 PM PDT by Skywise
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“...can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances...”

Who do they think they are, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court? The same court that usurped the power of the PA legislature and changed election laws just weeks before the 2020 presidential election, ruling that ballots could be submitted and counted 5 days AFTER election day (and with NO signature).


5 posted on 05/22/2023 3:24:12 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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Very biased coverage.


6 posted on 05/22/2023 3:29:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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“...can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances...”


Love that quote. Changing and implementing laws is pretty much the job description for state representatives. The “checks and balances” come in with the Courts reviewing those laws to see if they and the legislature’s actions are legal according to the Constitution.

“We do not like that” is not a legal nor Constitutional argument.


7 posted on 05/22/2023 3:34:08 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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Fix the door after the cows come home.

Brilliant! Not.


8 posted on 05/22/2023 3:36:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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Wake me when the shuttle lands.


9 posted on 05/22/2023 3:37:15 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Anyone following the 2022 Arizona election knows that the electronic voting machines “malfunctioned” on election day, disenfranchising the majority conservative voters on election day. Many had to return to work and could not seek a polling place that was open.


10 posted on 05/22/2023 3:39:23 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( )
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“Very biased coverage.”

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Just as most is these days and all based upon feelings rather than facts.

Since hearing the rumors earlier this afternoon that the Arizona Senate had made such a statement, I had been looking for any type of reporting. All I could find was the twitter thread that mentioned it. The press release from Senate leader was not yet even on his website (that I could find). This was the only article to be found to even actually address the issue. Of course, the Democrats will sue, but the Court filings as to why paper ballots cannot be used should be interesting.


11 posted on 05/22/2023 3:41:42 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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“ The core of the so-called “plenary powers” theory is that legislatures can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances by the judicial or executive branches.”

In other words, the literal interpretation of the constitution as written? Now we call plain English written on paper a theory.


12 posted on 05/22/2023 3:43:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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“ The core of the so-called “plenary powers” theory is that legislatures can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances by the judicial or executive branches.”

This violates the plain English, black and white letter law of the constitution. This should be an immediate federal lawsuit going to the US Supreme Court immediately


13 posted on 05/22/2023 3:45:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing (original spelling) Senators.
14 posted on 05/22/2023 3:53:52 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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BTW, that is fromn Article 4 of the U.S. Constitution:

LINK

15 posted on 05/22/2023 3:57:17 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Here is the simple facts as I read them. The US Constitution gives state legislatures the power to determine election methods and means.

The States then operate within a framework that they establish.

In Arizona that is Article 7 and the pertinent section is in Section Section 12. which states in its entirety:
There shall be enacted registration and other laws to secure the purity of elections and guard against abuses of the elective franchise.

Now in the past the stupid legislature granted some of those powers in an administrative manner to the Sec of State (fools that they were) but I think they undid that. The issue for me is that this simple section says that there shall be “registration and other laws...” and laws are defined elsewhere to have the three branches of the AZ government involved in their enactment, signing into law and other issues. If the state constitution said that the State Legislature shall enact rules or something other than “laws” then this power cited might be possible. But that is not what it says in plain language.


16 posted on 05/22/2023 3:59:13 PM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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To: Robert DeLong

see my 16


17 posted on 05/22/2023 3:59:40 PM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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“ The core of the so-called “plenary powers” theory is that legislatures can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances by the judicial or executive branches.”

In other words, the literal interpretation of the constitution as written? Now we call plain English written on paper a theory.



“ The core of the so-called “plenary powers” theory is that legislatures can change election rules and administration whenever they want and however they want, with no checks or balances by the judicial or executive branches.”

This violates the plain English, black and white letter law of the constitution. This should be an immediate federal lawsuit going to the US Supreme Court immediately


You quoted the linked site’s source’s statement and then made two of your own in separate posts in regards to that statement that seem to be conflicting (both within less than a minute). Your first post supported the Senate leader’s position, and the second did not. As to the second, what issue do you think needs to be brought immediately to the Supreme Court by the federal government? And why should the SCOTUS be the first step while skipping lower Courts?


18 posted on 05/22/2023 4:01:27 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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Right! Didn’t the USSC just ignore that also. I seem to remember Justice Alito wanted to do something but didn’t. So the fix was in all the way to the Supreme court.


19 posted on 05/22/2023 4:01:52 PM PDT by Colo9250 ( )
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The Republican Senator should brush up on the law. However, first he should learn what “non-binding” means.


20 posted on 05/22/2023 4:03:30 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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