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Nothing definitive yet but it's thought the jet lost cabin pressure before anyone could don an oxygen mask so everyone went to sleep, including the pilot.
1 posted on 06/05/2023 9:24:25 AM PDT by Boomer
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It’s happened before, but is still suspicious these days, especially with the democrats propensity to be involved in so many *accidents*, *suicides*, and *disappearances*.


2 posted on 06/05/2023 9:26:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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That is one egregious headline..................


3 posted on 06/05/2023 9:26:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Payne Stewart redux


4 posted on 06/05/2023 9:26:39 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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Pro Golfer, Stuart Payne died in a similar scenario. He was in a Learjet.


5 posted on 06/05/2023 9:27:05 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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Certainly some kind of medical emergency. Loss of cabin pressure is what happened to Paine Stewart some years ago.


6 posted on 06/05/2023 9:28:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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That’s how champion pro golfer, Payne Stewart, died. The private plane he was in lost cabin pressure and flew on its own almost all the way across the US from Florida in a northwesterly direction until it ran out of fuel and crashed. All aboard perished. US fighter planes escorted it all the way but, of course, could do nothing to prevent the crash.


8 posted on 06/05/2023 9:30:08 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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what a crap headline...this appears to be the same issue that killed the people in the Payne Stewart plane...


9 posted on 06/05/2023 9:30:57 AM PDT by stylin19a ("Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl")
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Nothing definitive yet but it’s thought the jet lost cabin pressure before anyone could don an oxygen mask so everyone went to sleep, including the pilot.

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the flight of payne stewart


10 posted on 06/05/2023 9:31:21 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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I’ve been hoping this would happen to all the Davos group’s jets next time they fly into one of their mass-murder plotting meetings.


11 posted on 06/05/2023 9:31:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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Reminds me of an old OLD Steve Canyon TV show “Operation Intercept” Episode aired Mar 31, 1959” where he has to shoot down an American Plane headed for the USSR.
If this is the one I recall from decades ago, some target shooters accidentally shot holes in the aircraft causing those aboard to die in flight.

DANG what a Memory I have at 76!


17 posted on 06/05/2023 9:40:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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That’s what I’m thinking.

A Citation is a big enough jet to (typically) require two pilots.

Something would have to take out both.

Or perhaps they both had the fish.


18 posted on 06/05/2023 9:40:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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So basically, the headline admonishes those who may feel some empathy for this family because they were “TRUMP donors, “don’t feel bad, they deserved it”


20 posted on 06/05/2023 9:42:15 AM PDT by Toespi
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dont these jets have alarms that go off when they lose cabin pressure

so people know to put on the oxygen mask?


22 posted on 06/05/2023 9:44:13 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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article: "The Cessna was not shot down, according to federal officials."

OK, that confirms that they shot it down.

26 posted on 06/05/2023 9:47:12 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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How did the plane make a perfect U turn over NY to fly over DC?


27 posted on 06/05/2023 9:47:26 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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Nothing definitive yet but it's thought the jet lost cabin pressure before anyone could don an oxygen mask so everyone went to sleep, including the pilot.

The same thing happened to a prominent golfer 5 years ago.

28 posted on 06/05/2023 9:47:33 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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We should all say a prayer for this man and his family.


32 posted on 06/05/2023 9:56:14 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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That could certainly be it
But doesn’t that mean it happened AFTER the pilot made a 180 turn to land at NY air port?
Have not seen any reports if talk between pilot and ATC at air port.


33 posted on 06/05/2023 9:58:12 AM PDT by RWGinger (LGB)
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I’ve wondered why automated descent isn’t part of auto pilot in such situations.


35 posted on 06/05/2023 9:58:22 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I have just a little over 300 hours in Citation II. I flew right seat on charters, and flew reposition for maintenance at the Greensboro Citation Service Center, and bum a jump seat ride back home.

Cesna Citations (I,II) are dubbed the "Fischer-Price Jet" of biz jets. Not much of a useful load. Underpowered relative to its competitors. It's very common to scud-run them when not going a great distance, especially so around the DC Flyway corridor. It's very common to fly them at VFR altitudes and Low Level Enroute routes IFR. I rarely flew above 12,000 feet unless we were traveling more than 250 miles. That can build bad habits in cockpit management. If you have six passengers and baggage you don't have a great deal of fuel load, which means frequent stops. In a trip from Charlotte to Seattle, we had to stop twice for fuel. The plane spends a fair amount of time and distance at low unpressurized altitudes versus a Falcon, Lear, Hawker, etc....

39 posted on 06/05/2023 10:06:10 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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