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Ukraine: Counteroffensive to Persist Despite Dam Destruction
Newsmax ^ | June 7, 2023 | Nick Koutsobinas

Posted on 06/07/2023 6:46:35 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

Ukraine's Major General Andrey Kovalchuk, the former commander of November's Kherson Counteroffensive, tells The Post how he intended to blow up the dam.

"Kovalchuk considered flooding the river," The Post writes. "The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper's water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages. The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: Navy Patriot

Or Putin’s muzzie savages did it so they could kill more Christians.

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2 posted on 06/07/2023 6:50:56 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I just watched a video of the dam that blew, as well as satellite photos.

Although I’ve heard this nowhere, it is obvious what happened.

The Russians had heavily mined the waters above the dam to stop the Ukrainians from crossing.

The water levels in the lake were the highest ever. For some reason the Russians were not opening the gates allowing the water levels to be stable.

They finally opened the gates and the high water level combined with the increased current when they opened the gates caused the mines from the lake to break loose and drift into the dam, exploding and destroying the dam.

In the video I watched after the dam had blown, there were a series on continuous underwater explosions at the dam as additional mines continued to drift into the dam and explode.

It was Russian stupidity that blew up the dam!


3 posted on 06/07/2023 6:57:13 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

If even remotely true, could we expect to see Putin replacing military leadership in the area?


4 posted on 06/07/2023 7:01:32 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: Navy Patriot
This seems more like an act of desperation by the Ukrainians than either a strategic or tactical act by the Russians.

Since the pathetic, mostly nonexistent Ukrainian offensive has turned out to be little more than a fart in the wind... Biden's puppet regime needed some other gimmick to assure Western financing. Most “leaders” other than Lindsey Graham want to see more than faked Russian body count numbers; they want results from the Zelensky government, or he is going to find himself thrown under the bus.

“The U.S. government has intelligence that is leaning toward Russia as the culprit of the attack, according to two U.S. officials and one Western official.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/khakovka-dam-live-updates-ukraine-russia-blew-up-kherson-rcna87855

After US Navy Seals blew up the Nord Stream pipelines the same officials had intelligence that was leaning towards the Russians being the perpetrators as well.

“The CIA learned last June, via a European spy agency, that a six-person team of Ukrainian special operations forces intended to sabotage the Russia-to-Germany natural gas project”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-russia/

This conflict reaches new levels of propaganda each and every day.

5 posted on 06/07/2023 7:04:58 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: tired&retired
It was Russian stupidity that blew up the dam!

Simple stupidity does rule the world, so I would not completely rule out your explanation. However, mines are anchored with steel cables and are unlikely to drift anywhere because of increased current and higher water levels. If specially trained individuals swam under the water and cut the cables then maybe, but then the mines would be floating at the surface. Did you see any mines floating at the surface in the videos that you watched? The devil is always in the details.

6 posted on 06/07/2023 7:12:57 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: tired&retired

From the article that this thread is based on...

According to a report from The Washington Post in late December, a Ukrainian military officer suggested blowing up the dam could be a means for a last resort.”


7 posted on 06/07/2023 7:18:40 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: tired&retired

More like it was American Stupidity that blew up the dam.


8 posted on 06/07/2023 7:30:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: tired&retired

The most plausible explanation so far.


9 posted on 06/07/2023 7:32:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Navy Patriot
--- This was addressed to you, as the thread's poster. I found it fascinating as per the below....

"I just watched a video of the dam that blew, as well as satellite photos. Although I've heard this nowhere, it is obvious what happened." Etc....

This was a fascinating comment posted to you, as it was the identical comment -- obviously cut and pasted -- to three other threads as well.

These are:

1) VIDEO: Obvious Culprits of Nord Stream Pipeline Bombing Ignored
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4159061/posts
9:34:55 AM

2) Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4159046/posts
9:36:35 AM

3) Reporting from Ukraine 6/7
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4159014/posts
9:37:27 AM

and 4) Ukraine: Counteroffensive to Persist Despite Dam Destruction
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159068/posts
9:57:13 AM

The four may be viewed in succession, should one wish.

Source: https://freerepublic.com/tag/by:tiredretired/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

As the Ukraine-Russia war continues with its many events, it is interesting how, here on Free Republic threads, the war is being "fought" by competing messages. Probably of little effect in the overall scheme of things, but interesting nonetheless....

10 posted on 06/07/2023 7:36:25 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: fireman15
This conflict reaches new levels of propaganda each and every day.

Yep, if our Space "Program" was as advanced as our Disinformation and Propaganda Program, we'd be cruising around several Galaxies by now.

11 posted on 06/07/2023 7:36:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Why don’t you stop crying about the fact that both sides put the best spin on a war and try to learn something from what information is available.

“Boohoo there is nothing but propaganda I don’t believe anything and everyone is lying and we can’t possibly know what is happening so I just hope that both sides are destroyed I’m so sick of reading about it.” Oy childish.


13 posted on 06/07/2023 7:40:51 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: tired&retired

“The Russians had heavily mined the waters above the dam to stop the Ukrainians from crossing.”

Correct; and also the south shore line has areas of dense land mines.


14 posted on 06/07/2023 7:41:03 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Thanks, Traveler, I believe you are referring to comment #3, and I did notice the immense intelligence and expertise in the Narrative.

I responded accordingly.

15 posted on 06/07/2023 7:49:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Williams

16 posted on 06/07/2023 7:52:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
Yep, if our Space “Program” was as advanced as our Disinformation and Propaganda Program, we'd be cruising around several Galaxies by now.

Yes, it is currently nearly impossible to discern reality from disinformation. Propaganda is nothing new but the way that new technology and communications media are being employed are way beyond what could have been imagined even 20 years ago. It has gotten completely out of hand. Look at the daily fights we have around here over nonsense.

17 posted on 06/07/2023 7:58:02 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Williams

18 posted on 06/07/2023 8:01:21 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot; Williams

Sorry, I was reponing to your comments and didn’t realize that this thread had already been infiltrated by a belligerent boob who was already polluting the discussion with disinformation fueled hate and discontent. I did enjoy your response to him.


19 posted on 06/07/2023 8:05:20 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15
Propaganda (and Disinformation) is nothing new but the way that new technology and communications media are being employed are way beyond what could have been imagined even 20 years ago.

Yep, the technology make the False Witness Magnitudes more Destructive.

20 posted on 06/07/2023 8:07:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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