Posted on 06/09/2023 5:20:06 PM PDT by elpadre
There appears to be a potentially big development in Ukraine focused on a negotiated deal with Russia.
“Ukraine is ready for negotiations and a peace agreement,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said – “if Russia changes the previously declared goals of the special military operation.” Okeksiy Reznikov (from Twitter)
His statement came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Kherson on June 8th to be updated on the ongoing offensive in the Zaphorize region.
No doubt Zelensky got news that he did not want to hear: The Ukrainian offensive is not going well and Ukrainian army losses have been heavy. The Russians have managed to knock out many Ukrainian tanks, including French-supplied AMX-10s and three front-line German Leopard A-6 models (not the A-4 models transferred from Poland).
The Russians also destroyed the critical Hensoldt TRML-4D AESA radar, part of the Iris-T air defense system that was brought up in range to support Ukraine’s forces in the offensive. Its neutralization has given Russian forces command of the air above the battlefield.
We don’t know much about Russian casualties or material losses. We do know that what may have been Ukraine’s best-modernized brigade – the 47th Mechanized, trained in Europe by NATO, equipped with night vision, thermal imaging gear and infantry fighting vehicles including the US Bradley, and backed by a massive amount of artillery including HIMARS – failed to gain ground or roll back the Russians.
It is unclear how much overall damage was done to this brigade, but other units have been mauled – so much so that some battalions refused to fight.
(Excerpt) Read more at asiatimes.com ...
A war and millions dead for whatbshould have happened in the first place.
excerpted: “...The last time there were serious negotiations between the two sides was when former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett shuttled among Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France. He says he was close to working a quid pro quo when his effort was undermined by the Biden administration, forcing Zelensky to call off any deal....”
Heh...this is a opinion piece from a blog full of ifs, ands, buts, and maybes.
Try again.
Fine mess you got your people into Zelensky. Guess what? Vlad will enter negotiations, and he needs you to sign the unconditional surrender agreement.
Merkel and the West admitted the Minsk agreements were signed only to” buy time”, they can NOT TO BE TRUSTED, Unconditional Surrender or Vlad turns western Ukraine into Bakmut.
Time to pay the piper for all your corrupted, deceitful, lying ways.
IOW: The much anticipated counter-offensive has stalled?
bkmk
I gotta hand it you, you just refuse to admit the Ukies are done, spent…your war cheerleaders Biden,Zelensky, and western MSM hoodwinked you.
May I ask? Have you seen all the video confirmation of Artymovsk’s fall, and the horrendous slaughter the Ukies are sustaining over the past 4 day “ Great Offensive”?
As I stated before, the war cheerleaders are in for the hangover of their life, you can thank Senile Joe and your Saint Zelensky.
“ Ukraine is ready for negotiations and a peace agreement,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said – “if Russia changes the previously declared goals of the special military operation.” Okeksiy Reznikov (from Twitter)
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Negotiations? I think that after the Russians’ experience with the Minsk Agreements the possibilities for trust between the parties is kaput. Sadly, I think the only way this war will end is through surrender (likely with conditions) of one of the parties.
Who should we thank for this catastrophe? Well, thank you Victoria Nuland and all your globalist/Neocon buddies. Thank you EU bureaucracy and thanks to the Biden puppet masters.
Its too late
He and his globalist pals made a deal with the devil
Can’t back out now.
It is unclear how much overall damage was done to this brigade, but other units have been mauled – so much so that some battalions refused to fight.
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No, the US knows exactly the slaughter the Ukies are enduring. The US and collective West has so much blood on its hands, it will never wash off. Everyone thought Biden’s Afghanistan debacle was bad, his Ukrainian debacle will be historic, for all the world to see.
The mini dancing pustule in a green T shirt takes his orders from Blinken and Potatohead. I doubt he has the guts to make his own decisions.
“should have happened in the first place”
The US didn’t want a deal. It wanted to attrit Russian military force...probably to further the goal of its eventual break-up.
And the US was the only vote.
D.C. Politicians and Military-Industrial Complex investors are going to be really upset if this is true.
Ifs, and, buts and maybes!
Hey, Timber sounds like your posts.
The truth hurts, fella.
What's your next gig when the clown Zelensky folds?
This makes sense.
We all know (those of us who are not trolls or suffering cranial/sphincter inversion) that the ukes are losing badly. Dollars don’t replace trained/experienced pilots and operators.
A negotiated ‘peace’ carries with it a number of benefits, including a major windfall for the corruptocrats, nato or not.
That doesn’t seem to be very different than what they said ages ago.
But Russia’s answer has always been…we keep what we took.
So…many thousands more must die.
The counter offensive has been on for a day. It’s gonna take more than 24 hours to exhaust an Army.
“As I stated before, the war cheerleaders are in for the hangover of their life, you can thank Senile Joe and your Saint Zelensky”.
BINGO!
And they’ll never admit they have a very bad hangover.
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