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To: Pete Dovgan
Several other NATO nations have reported that they have trained Ukrainian pilots.

Not a single Ukrainian pilot has sat in a US/NATO classroom or cockpit yet. The plan was for Norway and Denmark to start training Ukrainian pilots in August, but there's been another snag. The countries don't have any F-16 simulators!

39 posted on 06/16/2023 3:16:26 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Agreed. It’s a phantom threat and the Ukes would fly them straight into Air defense meat grinder apparently 3 or 4 at a time. Let’s just say that some of us can only discuss open sourced data.


40 posted on 06/16/2023 3:31:08 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored !)
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This makes sense to you? They have trained nobody? Yet large (I mean hundreds) of F-16’s A/B early C/D are no longer stored in Arizona. When the war started there were 6-7 hundred F-16’s stored, now 2-3 hundred. Did the US open up new air wings with old aircraft as F-35 roll off the old F-16 assembly line? What about the F/A 18’s (not super hornets) that were arriving in Arizona, then suddenly hundreds disappear from the totals?

Somebody somewhere is using hundreds of old model F-16 and F/A 18. The F-16 has over 5000k copies (maybe close to 6k now) manufactured. Over the last 45 years, that’s alot of pilots, simulators, ground equipment, parts, engines, in many NATO and non-NATO countries. Yes, I firmly believe that they have been training them somewhere because the numbers make sense that way. Whose training? Level of training? Those are good questions. Don’t be shocked when this ‘offensive bogs down because of air support failure’ that you see large numbers of these planes arrive with pilots. Speculation, sure call it that if it makes you feel better. However, if you listen to the Biden people, the British, other NATO nations, and see the numbers, they basically tell you. Also, Australia announced its giving F/A 18 to Ukraine this week.

PS, I noticed a large number of old attack Helicopters cycle out of Arizona over the last year. I am sure that the US army suddenly needs old cobras and such.


41 posted on 06/17/2023 6:23:17 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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