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Supreme Court hands Biden admin major win on challenge to ICE enforcement policy
Fox News ^ | 6/23/2023 | Adam Shaw

Posted on 06/23/2023 8:02:16 AM PDT by antidemoncrat

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To: antidemoncrat

8-1 ruling. Justice Samuel Alito was the sole dissenting justice.


21 posted on 06/23/2023 8:12:09 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: qaz123

That is true. Of course, it’s always been true. Illegals have been ignored by feds for ages while officially, well, they are ILLEGAL. THAT seems to be when states and locals had standing to complain, that it WASNT BEING ENFORCED.

In a way now, the feds are scaling back their rules to fit what they actually perform. So perhaps locals cannot complain about it not being enforced.


22 posted on 06/23/2023 8:12:19 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: qaz123
Pres Trump proved that it is completely under the Executive Branch.

Executive Branch decisions on border security are temporary. What one president does can be undone by the next president, as Biden proved starting on his first day in office, which saw a tidal wave of illegal aliens pouring in. Lasting border security in the form of a manned border wall will require Congressional cooperation, and that's always been lacking due to Republican establishment types.
23 posted on 06/23/2023 8:12:52 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: antidemoncrat

The real falt is the open ambiguity in the law that gives the executive too much leeway to its own interpretation. If the law was less ambiguous and spelled out less leeway for executive interpetation, that states could have argued that Biden was not “following the law”, but, as bad as it is the SCOTUS seems to be saying the horrible ICE policy is “not against the law”.

Congres is dominated by lawyers either in the elected offices or in their staffs that actually write the laws. Then those lawayers are dominated by Progressives and Leftists that want a strong executive, not a strong Congress, and they write the laws that leave so much to executive interpretation. Thwy are the arhitects of the administrative state regardless of the fact that they are elected to be the “democratic branch of government representing the people”.


24 posted on 06/23/2023 8:13:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: jeffc

Is SCOTUS saying the feds are omnipotent?

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I think we already know the answer to that broader question. The entrenched power structure is all powerful.

Federalism is but a quaint philosophical concept.


25 posted on 06/23/2023 8:13:15 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

but once the illegals are in the states themselves, that’s a different story


26 posted on 06/23/2023 8:13:21 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: mmichaels1970

You have a pretty good take on it.

But then, indeed, what do we know.


27 posted on 06/23/2023 8:13:41 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: mmichaels1970
"Now, I would gather this to mean that states can create their own ICE and prosecute/deport as they see fit within the confines of their state where the FEDS can’t intervene."

That would be nice...

28 posted on 06/23/2023 8:14:01 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: antidemoncrat

An Invasion is not Migration


29 posted on 06/23/2023 8:14:46 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: BigFreakinToad
Do it anyway

AGREE

30 posted on 06/23/2023 8:17:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: jeffc
If the States don’t have standing, who does? Is SCOTUS saying the feds are omnipotent?

Pick them up and dump them in a "sanctuary" state.

31 posted on 06/23/2023 8:18:15 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: antidemoncrat

How did they get this wrong? Literally, one of the few roles of the federal government is to protect our borders...no?


32 posted on 06/23/2023 8:19:10 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: jeffc
If the States don’t have standing, who does? Is SCOTUS saying the feds are omnipotent?

The SCOTUS just declared that we no longer have a Federal Government, but rather a Central Government.

33 posted on 06/23/2023 8:19:26 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: antidemoncrat

Another way to look at this, Biden owns the issue of our swamped open border more than he might like.


34 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:01 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis in 2024. No Other Choice Works. Trump Needs to Stay Home and Endorse DeSantis.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.


35 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:13 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Is SCOTUS saying the feds are omnipotent?

When it comes to enforcing the borders of the United States, yes.

Then who punishes the feds for failing to do their job of enforcement?

36 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:14 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: antidemoncrat

I want to learn more about this case, and the specific legal issues involved.

Clearly this case did not have a liberal/conservative split in the vote, because even most conservatives voted for this.


37 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:21 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep, dem holes are sometimes hard to plug up.
Too much lax being used.


38 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:24 AM PDT by deport
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To: JimRed
Then who punishes the feds for failing to do their job of enforcement?

Nominally, the voters.
39 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:51 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Bump


40 posted on 06/23/2023 8:20:52 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now... )
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