Posted on 06/25/2023 6:17:48 PM PDT by Widget Jr
Wagner Forces Lead Mutiny To Moscow
A wild 24 hours kicked off after Wagner leader Yevgheny Prigozhin organized his men and pushed to Rostov on Don and onwards to Moscow. The threats poured out from Wagner aligned Telegram channels that Defense Minister Shoigu has signed his death warrant, that General Surovikin would face a tribunal for surrendering Kherson and that Russia would soon have a new president.
In their trek across Russia, the Wagner convoy met little formal resistance and instead shared videos of locals cheering them on, taking pictures and appearing to be siding with their cause. Throughout the day, Russian Telegram channels say that 7-8 Russian aircraft were shot down or damaged killing upwards of 13 pilots.
Eventually, news came out that Belarusian President Lukashenko had brokered a deal between Putin and Prigozhin. In that deal, Prigozhin’s charges would be dropped and he would relocate to Belarus. Wagner fighters who took part in the mutiny would also have their charges dropped and those who did not take part would be absorbed into the Russian Ministry of Defense.
A Wall Street Journal analysis said that every major player in Russia lost during this event. The Russian security services failed by showing a reluctance or fear of engaging Wagner forces on their march to Moscow and Putin failed because he created and then lost control of a war lord. “Our country will never be the way it used to be. Wagner’s columns didn’t move on the asphalt, it moved through people’s hearts, cutting them in half, “stated Aleksandr Khodakovsky a deputy commander in the Roskvardya in Donetsk.
The lack of public support for Putin as this played out was noticeable. In contrast, citizens in Rostov were waving Russian flags, cheering on and taking pictures with Wanger and jeered the security forces that appeared after Wagner left.
Former Putin advisor Sergei Markov stated "The entire world has seen that Russia is on the brink of a political crisis. Yes the coup failed now. But coups have fundamental reasons. And if the reasons remain, a coup will happen again. And it could be successful."
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There were several YouTube Videos posted about Prigozhin's actions and what it all means. If what it means is possible to figure out at all. I will post the ones I found interesting in the comments.
Comments, questions, informed critiques, ranting, raving, awkward silence, or given the last two days, total confusion over what just happened, myself included?
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I would not be surprised if Prigozhin takes over as ruler in Belarus in a coup there.
The views represent some guy making stuff up. He has no knowledge of what is going on now or what has transpired the last 36 hours. Speculation, nothing more. No better speculation than the speculation of the other hundreds of speculators here. At least he disassociates himself from those bone head speculators at DoD.
My phone and email have been blowing up with clients asking me what's going on in Russia right now!?!? And the answer is not what you think..."Here is my current assessment of the facts, fiction, and reality of what you need to know."
From his channel, Andrew Bustamante. is a former CIA intelligence officer and US Air Force combat veteran. He is looking at Prigozhin's muntiny through the eyes of a intelligence officer.
He explains how this could "maskirovka" (Russian military deception. Russia recently moved 30,000 soldiers to Belarus. Together with 25,000 Wagner, that's 50,000 combat ready soldiers north of Kyiv.
“Russia recently moved 30,000 soldiers to Belarus”
There is no source for that.
From yesterday, probably "a little" dated: Prigozhin: 3 Conclusions
1. The war is not over. Both backed down because they were scared neither one would win.
2. Putin was humiliated, showed he was weak and vulnerable, and will not forgive this.
3. The fall of Putin's regime is not going to happen anytime soon.
Her one hour live stream session: Prigozhin Insurrection: What Is Going On and What's Next?
Then wiseacre TV interviewers can ask presidential candidates to take a name removed world map and point to Belarus. No fair leaving “Latvia” as a clue.
Jake Broe, former USAF missileer:
The Reason Prigozhin Stopped His Rebellion
Combat Veteran Reacts, Afghan war vet:
Prigozhin's Coup FAIL! What Deal did Putin Make?
Both Broe and CVR think Prigozhin cut a deal to hold off going to Moscow, and gets most of what he wants. Hey may have significant future political influence if Putin does not get rid of him.
Vlad Vexler, Russian expat philosopher living in London.
Failed Coup Irreversibly Damages Putin
Ukraine Matters, has family relatives in Ukraine, fluent in Ukrainian and Russian.
Wagner's FAILED REVOLUTION - Ukraine War Map Update 25/Jun/2023
He brings up that both Putin and Prigozhin failed to follow through on the word they gave. In Russian culture, for politicians to publicly take a stand and back down is a major failure. While both side have their supporters, both sides have many Russians mad at them for backing down like this.
Anna from Ukraine, a Ukrainian teacher vlogging near daily about the war: FAILED COUP OR WHY PRIGOZHIN & WAGNER RETREATED & WHO WON? Vlog 405: War in Ukraine
The Enforcer, US bloggers and no fans of Putin:
The Wagner Coup Signals The End Of Russia | Breaking News With The Enforcer
Prigozhin really humiliated the Russian army by getting to 100 miles of Moscow unopposed, shot down a few aircraft, and will live to tell about it.
This story just doesn’t make sense as being a coup.
Think about marching an army to the capital, without air support, threatening to take over the entire country; one that spans what, eight time zones or so?
The conventional story is either deception or Wagner have lost their minds.
semi kidding remark.
This guy’s name is much too difficult so he won’t last long as a celebrity.
Remember when we all struggled to remember SARS Coronavirus etc. until settled on “Covid” and that was that?
Lukashenko knows the risks. He’s in ill health and is quite old for a Belarusan male. He has his succession ready, and Prigozhin did not cut to the front of the line.
He argues calling what happened a coup goes to far. It was more of a classic mutiny or uprising. The goals were to get change to benefit the military or force addressing problems, not take over. Whatever deal was made, for now Prigozhin thinks he will get or maintains the political position to get what he wants.
All I can say is WOW!
Your EXCELLENT sources & research give much to ponder!
“The lack of public support for Putin as this played out was noticeable.”
the worm has turned
“The loss of faith in Putin of oligarchs, cronies, & officials is more relevant to the duration of the regime than emboldened rivals. The capo di tutti capi guarantees protection in exchange for loyalty. Protection of fortunes, of authority. When that diminishes, so does loyalty.”
~ Garry Kasparov
There’s no source for 25,000 Wagners going to Belarus either.
Just a bunch of internet grifters posting crap.
Reminds me of Qanon...
Russia has eleven times zones. It’s land mass covers a fifth of the Earth’s surface.
Description: "Wagner's mutiny has been the most significant event since Russia attacked Ukraine on February 24, 2023. This is why this is a lose-lose situation and why Putin will be out of the door soon."
Hour and a half long. He's a Russian national who lived in and outside of Russia, then left to avoided conscription and aiding Putin's war.
Wagner chief started making twitter videos weeks ago, where he was angry, yelling. Probably to set the stage. So he and Putin had the coup attempt planned then.
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