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Judge Rules Second Amendment Rights May Not be Removed for All Violent Felonies
AmmoLand ^ | June 30, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/05/2023 5:37:58 AM PDT by marktwain

On June 28, 2023, Judge Carlton W. Reeves, District Judge in the Southern District of Mississippi and Chair of the United States Sentencing Commission, issued an order dismissing the case against Jessie Bullock for possessing a firearm as a convicted felon. Mr. Bullock was convicted of aggravated assault and manslaughter in 1992. He served about 15 years in prison. In 2015 Mr. Bullock was convicted of fleeing law enforcement and attempted aggravated assault of a police officer. He served five years of probation. Bullock was charged with knowingly possessing a firearm in May of 2018, although for various reasons, the charge was not arraigned until October 2019. In June of 2022, the Supreme Court issued the Bruen decision, upholding its rulings in Heller, McDonald, and Caetano. Mr. Bullock argued the Bruen decision rendered the ban on felons in possession invalid in his case.

Judge Reeves spends pages showing how and why he disagrees with the Supreme Court. He presents several straw man arguments. Many courts have upheld the federal ban on the possession of firearms by felons in the last 85 years. The Supreme Court used historical records to determine what the Second Amendment means, not the desire of legislatures or of judges. Judge Reeves does not like this approach, but he recognized it as required by the Supreme Court. Judge Reeves suggested he appoint a historian to research the historical record.

Both parties in the case refused the suggestion. In Bruen, the burden is clear. Because of the text and history of the Second Amendment, it is the burden of the government to show a particular restriction on the rights protected by the Second Amendment was accepted and widely practiced at the time the Second Amendment was ratified.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; civilrights; constitution; ms; nra; secondamendment
Felons regained their rights after punishment (if they were not executed) when the Bill of Rights was ratified.
1 posted on 07/05/2023 5:37:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Until 1968, there was no federal law prohibiting felons from possessing a firearm.


2 posted on 07/05/2023 5:49:40 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: PROCON

2A


3 posted on 07/05/2023 5:50:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: marktwain

If someone is not suitable to return to society with all of their rights then keep them in prison. But once they’ve done their time then let them go. Period.


4 posted on 07/05/2023 6:02:18 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: marktwain

Is this like a bill of attainder?


5 posted on 07/05/2023 6:43:22 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: marktwain

“on April 28, 2010, Reeves was nominated by President Barack Obama to fill a seat on the United States”

That says it all.


6 posted on 07/05/2023 6:44:57 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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To: MeganC

I’d be totally against this if the whole stupid voting restoration BS hadn’t started. If you can vote again, you can keep a gun. What’s good for the goose and all.


7 posted on 07/05/2023 7:00:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: marktwain; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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This Ping List is for all news pertaining to infringes upon or victories for the 2nd Amendment.

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More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

8 posted on 07/05/2023 7:11:49 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: MeganC

In FL they had such a problem with crack cocaine, they made possession of any amount a felony. That means anyone who had a short addiction to it and got caught with $20 worth became a felon for life and lost 2nd amendment right.

Many millions have a non-violent felony conviction from when they were young and stupid. Every state has some crimes that are non-violent and not very severe but are considered felonies.


9 posted on 07/05/2023 7:28:35 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Rest is already underway! <<<)
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To: marktwain

The 2Amd makes no exceptions for convicted felons. What difference does that make? If convicted felons want guns convicted felons will get guns, legally or not. The only possible exceptions to RKBA are legally incarcerated convicts and insane people. That could come under the 13th’s treatment of involuntary servitude. The crime is in the inappropriate use of guns. If felons had legal possession of guns it would not increase murder and it would make tracing a gun found at a crime scene easier though the sharper criminals would still steal the guns they use.


10 posted on 07/05/2023 7:29:30 AM PDT by arthurus ( Covefe -1!Ii)
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To: MeganC

I 100% agree with this statement!

If we as a society, are going to be the live-and-let-live society everyone claims we are, then why do we put labels on people and force them to wear that label forever?

Either they paid their price to society and should be allowed to fully reintegrate or (if they are still a danger to society) keep them locked up!

By labeling and limiting them with that forever “FELON” label, our “justice” system becomes the perpetual punishment machine...even punishing them for things they MAY do or COULD do tomorrow. When these ex-prisoners can’t get a decent job or work at many of the highest-paying jobs because they have Federal dollars and therefore no felons are allowed to work there...they push these people back into the easy money life they were doing before! Our “justice” system becomes the primary driver for all the recidivism which they claim to hate and want to end!


11 posted on 07/05/2023 8:03:42 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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To: marktwain

Praise Heavenly Father, in Sweet Jesus Name 🙏 💯💖

Everyone has the God given right to defend themselves.
If dangerous. Then they need to be locked away.

If you are free, you must be free to defend yourself too.


12 posted on 07/05/2023 9:55:49 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: ExTxMarine

Ditto that! Everything you said!


13 posted on 07/05/2023 9:57:43 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Until 1968, there was no federal law prohibiting felons from possessing a firearm.

Shuck guys, Matt Dillon always gave the outlaws back their guns when he released them.

14 posted on 07/05/2023 10:24:39 AM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: marktwain
Felons regained their rights after punishment (if they were not executed) when the Bill of Rights was ratified.

exactly. I am unclear as to how you can remove a person's rights after they have served their time. Either they are 'free' or they are not.

15 posted on 07/05/2023 11:29:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: PROCON

I agree, right to bear arms is thrown into charges and a “felony” being the basis. Look all of you that think FELONY even means anything anymore....I experienced a “felony” when I had two drivers license , one out of Massachusetts and the other an in state Florida (mandated if you owned property) I had a ticket from Washington state that was PAID! Posted on computer that I ignored it....Year 1988 ....I get pulled over in Pasco county Florida and am informed my license was suspended from Washington state ...I NEVER HAD ONE OUT OF Washington state (permanent party Army at Ft. Lewis) took two years and I still drove ...next time they pulled me over on U.S. 19 (Port Richey length only) I was charged with a felony. I fought it and won but took over 3 years....felony I had to pay extra. Moral of the story?....never ask permission for a RIGHT


16 posted on 07/05/2023 6:04:14 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Positive outlook)
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To: marktwain

Gotta keep the mass shooting numbers up.

We out to rent a house for thus guy right across from the judge’s home.


17 posted on 07/06/2023 5:03:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: itsahoot

That’s because it was representative of the reality of the frontier


18 posted on 08/22/2023 10:26:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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To: wardaddy
That’s because it was representative of the reality of the frontier

There are more shootings in Chicago each weekend than there ever were in Dodge City.

19 posted on 08/23/2023 9:15:12 AM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: itsahoot

True and far different population levels

And they did indeed return guns to charged or jailed folks upon release

I’m a serious student of the old west and traveled it extensively since the 1960s

It’s a hobby I actually map these places to my enjoyment lol

You want to know the details on the Lincoln county war

Or Commanches/Kiowa versus Texas Rangers

Or Fanny Kelly captivity by the Oglalla

Etc

I’m your guy

There was a lawlessness in territories and some towns we can’t fathom

And it was indeed settled by violence

And vigilantism was often the only recourse with scant resources otherwise

This notion promoted here at times that it’s worse now is a canard

No offense

It was more about resources and wild Indians and booze

Drinking to excess was simply more tolerated then

1870s dodge city was 179/100,000 murder rate

New Orleans recently was 59/100,000

Of course there is a lot of nuance to all this that can be chewed up

The west gun fight wise was no more violent really than Georgia or Ohio then

The murders or violent deaths proportionately have been going down relatively
for 200 years

Notwithstanding Indians and vigilantes and USA border stuff with Mexico where it got heated at times

A broader spectrum of culture settled stuff violently before now they call their lawyer

Our violence today is more concentrated in certain demographics

The south where I’m from whites kill each other more than anywhere else in America

It’s a tradition


20 posted on 08/23/2023 9:56:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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