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Judge Rules Proud Boys Must Pay $1 Million To Church For Burning BLM Flag
Protestia ^ | July 5, 2023 | staff

Posted on 07/05/2023 9:56:36 AM PDT by Morgana

Last week a judge decreed that the Proud Boy must pay a hefty $1.03 million to a historic Black church in Washington, D.C. The reason? In December 2020, amid a tumultuous protest surrounding the U.S. presidential election, Proud Boys members desecrated and incinerated a Black Lives Matter (BLM) banner from the Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church, a revered landmark in the nation’s capital.

In his ruling, Superior Court Judge Neal Kravitz cited the “emotional trauma” inflicted on the church members due to the incident. He put forth a firm edict, effectively barring the Proud Boys from venturing near Metropolitan AME for the next half-decade and sternly prohibiting them from uttering disparaging remarks or threats against the church and its leaders.

Significantly, this ruling was a default judgment, given the conspicuous absence of the defendants in the courtroom.

Even though the cost to replace the flag totaled around $36,600, the judge emphasized that “compensatory damages alone will not address the defendants’ reprehensible conduct or the extraordinary emotional trauma suffered by the church and its congregants” and added on another million dollars, writing:

To the members of the church, the burning of the Black Lives Matter sign represented a complete negation of their right to worship as they please and, more fundamentally, to participate fully in the life of the community—and forced them to harken back to the long and painful history of white supremacists committing wanton acts of violence against Black churches.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 202012; blm; collectivepunishment; communistflag; cruelandunusual; kravitz; nealkravitz; stooge; stoogenealkravitz
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BUT BUT BUT BUT I thought the supreme court said that flag burning was a form of "free speech"???

Am I correct?

I sure hope they fight this!

1 posted on 07/05/2023 9:56:36 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

How about “No” and flag burning was ruled to be “free speech” judge.


2 posted on 07/05/2023 9:58:05 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Morgana

There really doesn’t seem to be a formal organization around Proud Boys, from what I understand.


3 posted on 07/05/2023 9:58:11 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Morgana

Proud boys? You mean khaki clad undercover operatives for the DOH-j?


4 posted on 07/05/2023 9:59:01 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: Morgana

A default judgment against an organization with no assets.


5 posted on 07/05/2023 9:59:26 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Morgana

“Even though the cost to replace the flag totaled around $36,600 . . .”

Seems like an expensive flag. Did they burn the church down too?


6 posted on 07/05/2023 10:00:02 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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$36,000 for a flag? Made of the most expensive silk?

What's the most anyone has ever been fined for vandalism at a church that's not a revered black church?

7 posted on 07/05/2023 10:00:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Morgana

You can’t burn someone else’s flag.


8 posted on 07/05/2023 10:00:13 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

Well okay I agree they need to pay for the flag if it was not their property but how can a flag cost millions of dollars?


9 posted on 07/05/2023 10:02:03 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Morgana

Neal Kravitz is not a judge, he is a leftist activist in a black robe. His kind will be the cause of our next civil war if it ever comes.


10 posted on 07/05/2023 10:02:48 AM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: Morgana

“ Even though the cost to replace the flag totaled around $36,600, ”

??? What is is made of?

And yes, you can burn any flag as long as it belongs to you. It is illegal to burn someone else’s flag. Burn BLM and rainbow flags all day long for all I care.


11 posted on 07/05/2023 10:02:52 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: circlecity

The could would go after the assets of each individual member.

I would be interested in finding out if the prosecutor even notified the Proud Boys leadership and that’s why nobody showed up


12 posted on 07/05/2023 10:03:12 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: Morgana

I’m sorry to say that while the judge obviously fined them so large a sum due to his own personal bias, he was correct in assessing a fine to begin with. They did steal someone else’s flag, they did filch it off of someone else’s property, and then burned it on top of that. That’s just not right.

If they wanted to show their displeasure with the BLM flag by burning it or however, they should have bought or made one of their own to destroy.


13 posted on 07/05/2023 10:03:31 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Morgana

I wonder which fine is greater — burning an LGBTQ flag or a BLM flag? U.S. flag = $0.00.


14 posted on 07/05/2023 10:04:58 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Verginius Rufus

“$36,000 for a flag? Made of the most expensive silk?”

Hand-woven by 6 of the most talented black widow spiders. They sure are talented, and that does come with a high cost.


15 posted on 07/05/2023 10:05:22 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Darksheare

Different flag


16 posted on 07/05/2023 10:05:28 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Darksheare
How about “No” and flag burning was ruled to be “free speech” judge.

It is. However, the Proud Boys burned the Church’s flag, not their flag. Big difference.

17 posted on 07/05/2023 10:06:13 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024 )
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To: Morgana

So this judge says burning a BLM flag is not good. Wonder what his thoughts are about burning the American flag?


18 posted on 07/05/2023 10:07:10 AM PDT by GTM01
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To: Morgana

“Emotional trauma”-what, did they have flashbacks to cross burning which they never experienced? Just asking for a friend.


19 posted on 07/05/2023 10:07:17 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: Darksheare
I wonder how much BLM has been fined for burning down Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland?

Just curious.

20 posted on 07/05/2023 10:08:13 AM PDT by daler
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