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Russian soldiers, like their brethren throughout history, are dealing with the stresses of warfare by hiring ladies of the evening
Twitter ^ | July 13, 2023 | Chris O

Posted on 07/15/2023 10:38:53 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

1/ Russian soldiers are dealing with the stresses of trench warfare by hiring sex workers to entertain them in their dugouts. Meanwhile, Russian brothels are offering soldiers on leave the opportunity to fulfil their fantasy of "punishing bad Ukrainian [women]".

2/ A report by The Insider highlights how the war in Ukraine has changed the nature of sex work in Russia. The country's sex workers are facing many challenges, from the loss of established clients, to increased competition from soldiers' wives and girlfriends taking up sex work.

3/ The Insider reports on the various impacts of the war on Russia's sex workers. Many of their clients fled abroad at the start of the war to escape mobilisation, while hundreds of thousands more were mobilised and in many cases killed in the fighting in Ukraine.

4/ Prostitutes are having to take greater risks, such as taking drunk or drugged clients, and to service poor Central Asian immigrants because they cannot find enough Russian clients. They have had to lower their prices and take on more clients to make up the numbers.

5/ Some Russian brothels are taking advantage of the war by offering discounts to soldiers. One prostitute says that she has seen salons offering a new "format of service: to come and punish bad Ukrainians, i.e. "sleep with a Ukrainian woman"."

6/ Perhaps as a result, soldiers have come to expect special treatment. The prostitute says that men "ask for a discount on dating sites or call from adverts: "I fought in the war, I defended my motherland, and you should either give me for free or take less money"."

7/ Sex workers face increased personal danger from returning soldiers, many of whom are likely suffering from post-traumatic stress. As one prostitute puts it: "Those clients who went to war and returned all behave differently.

8/ "If a person was adequate in peacetime, he remains adequate in principle, and if he was an aggressive idiot, he is even worse now.

9/ "There was a case in St. Petersburg when a whole unit of seven or eight people came, they were on leave and made a ruckus, one of them had a grenade and threatened to blow everyone up. Then it turned out that the grenade wasn't real, but the girls didn't know that.

10/ "There are enough fools like that in peacetime, but now it is scary because there are a lot of weapons around."

11/ Some soldiers are "brainwashed", prostitutes say, while other men "say that they have fought and that they have to go back, but they don't want to, because it's a nightmare and hell there, but they don't see any other way out. Such people behave adequately."

12/ In such cases, men are seeking an escape from the traumas of war. "They come to me for distraction. What's the point of him reliving events that he'll be plunged back into again, say, in a few days?

13/ "That is why our whole meeting is essentially devoted to psychological dialogue. We talk a lot, and about very personal, intimate things. Sometimes we remember school loves, first sexual experiences, these are secrets that he would not share with anyone else.

14/ "We don't discuss politics. When a man comes from war, he first of all wants to talk about himself and that first love, that first girl who didn't kiss him then or, on the contrary, made him kiss her. And now he asks: "Make me kiss you." It's always very personal.

15/ "Basically, what's my job? It's to accept the trauma. And he understands, "She doesn't judge me, she understands me, because back then, in my 15 years I was very scared to kiss a girl at the disco. And this woman accepts me as I am."

16/ "But the fact that men want to be understood, and want to find at least for a little while a shelter for their experiences – this is always separate from politics, it is always purely personal, intimate."

17/ One prostitute says that she met a client who enthusiastically volunteered to go to war. "He got Putin's bonus and decided to spend it on prostitutes. This guy gave us everything. Took off his new T-shirt and gave it to me. He was happy and said how lucky he was to have us.

18/ "He drank whiskey all the time and listened to a propaganda song about the war on YouTube: Basta or some of our other pop singers. He said he would go again, that he had to defend his homeland. He was not violent, but brainwashed.

19/ "There's ISIS, who train suicide bombers ready to kill themselves - that's what he was like. Words can't even convey what a shock it is to see a man in such a state. And he's young, and he's not stupid. Why did he go there?

20/ "I think they just don't realise that they have to kill other people. And the women don't realise what their husbands have to do. What does the word "war" mean to them? Their husbands go to war and bring in money, but they don't want to think about what is behind it.

21/ "And many of them are bloodthirsty. He, for example, drinks, and she may be thinking: "He will be killed, thank God. I'll get a bonus and he'll get slapped. He slept with me for two years and now I'm gonna live the good life.""

22/ "I don't know how else to think about it. It's really weird."

23/ The vicinity of Russian mobilisation points and military recruitment offices has become a lucrative venue for prostitutes. Corrupt local police forces have also allowed pimps to open brothels in the vicinity of the camps where mobilised soldiers are being trained.

24/ As one prostitute says of another sex worker in Novosibirsk, "There are a lot of men there, they want to relieve stress, they come out of the military recruitment centre, see Angela with a car and go to her to relieve stress. It's such an attraction.

25/ "For her, the war is a way to find a place where clients congregate. I read in one of the public [social media channels] that one of the shells destined for Ukraine said, "For Angela.""

26/ The widespread availability of smartphones and fast mobile data networks has provided novel opportunities for sex workers and their soldier clients, as a sex worker interviewed by The Insider notes.

27/ "Soldiers order virtual services and self-satisfy themselves in trenches, dugouts and shelters, right at the front. Very many sex workers provide both real and virtual services.

28/ "The price tag is usually much lower: from 500 roubles ($5.50) for 10 minutes, although it can go up to 3000 ($33). Depends on what they order. Therefore, this is more of a part-time job.

29/ "Most girls will not refuse to do virtual sex for extra pay, some show an open face, and some with a closed [masked] face. It can be just a conversation on sexual topics. The man at this time may or may not turn the camera on.

30/ "Many girls ask to turn it on to make sure there is not a bunch of drunken underage [boys] sitting there."

However, front line video sex can sometimes be a frustrating experience.

31/ "An acquaintance told me about such a client: he called directly from the trench, paid 1000 rubles ($11) for 10 minutes, and told her his fantasies. The connection there is constantly interrupted, as soon as he takes off his trousers in the bushes, his battery runs out."

32/ This is likely to present some interesting operational security challenges. It's been widely reported that the Ukrainians have have used mobile phone networks to spy on and target Russian units. For some soldiers, video sex may not have had a happy ending. /end


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: combatfatigue; frdegenerates; interestingpinglist; russia; shellshock; sympathyforscum; ukraine; zhangfag
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1 posted on 07/15/2023 10:38:53 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

A sympathetic account of the soldiers who seek temporary comfort from professionals doubling up as girlfriends and psychiatric counselors.


2 posted on 07/15/2023 10:39:34 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei
Those clients who went to war and returned all behave differently.

Same here. A whole generation of goofy kids went off to WWII and many came back as responsible adults.

3 posted on 07/15/2023 10:55:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Zhang Fei
Ukraine has long been a sex tourism destination and Ukrainian and Russian prostitutes can be found in brothels around the world, especially in Asia and the Middle East.

Beautiful Ukrainian refugees today are finding easy employment in American strip clubs, displacing the tattooed, corpulent American hambeasts who used to work there.

4 posted on 07/15/2023 11:00:48 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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They aren’t all gay? No wonder they are so hated by globohomo.


5 posted on 07/15/2023 11:10:39 AM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Drew68; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; ...

Ukraine ping

Drew68: [Ukraine has long been a sex tourism destination and Ukrainian and Russian prostitutes can be found in brothels around the world, especially in Asia and the Middle East.

Beautiful Ukrainian refugees today are finding easy employment in American strip clubs, displacing the tattooed, corpulent American hambeasts who used to work there.]


Russia’s no slouch in that regard. In a moribund economy, you take what you can get.

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-47164892
[Three million people are engaged in sex work in Russia, according to Irina Maslova, head of the unregistered association of sex workers “Silver Rose”. There are no exact statistics - these are calculations based on one of the UN methods, based on the total number of residents in a country, the level of welfare and social protection, and analogies with other states.

The Russian Interior Ministry calls the figure more modest, but also impressive - according to their data, in 2013 a million people were engaged in sex work in the country (more recent data could not be found).

Most of them are ordinary people who need money.

No one is holding them down by force. For 98% of sex workers, this is a voluntary choice, says Maslova. Kirill Barsky, an employee of the Steps Foundation for HIV Prevention, says that 99.9% of people in Moscow work of their own free will.]


Between an increase in local competition within Russia itself and a dearth of clients, some Russian call girls have resorted to traveling abroad.

https://theins.ru/confession/263211
[Due to the war, many girls have also resorted to working abroad because there are no job opportunities in Moscow. One acquaintance went to China and is currently imprisoned there. She had intended to go to Macau to work in a casino but ended up in a twenty-story brothel. Each room in that establishment is occupied by a prostitute. Clients come in for quick encounters, referred to as “shots” - a swift transaction before departing. Acquaintances who have been there would bring back two to three million rubles in just a month, but it’s like a conveyor belt. You go there for a month and earn enough for an apartment or a car.]


6 posted on 07/15/2023 11:28:05 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Drew68

No wonder Hunter spent so much time in Ukraine.


7 posted on 07/15/2023 11:40:03 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Zhang Fei

My Dad told all kinds of stories about such things he saw when he was in Luzon (with MacArthur) in WWII. He said a tattoo usually was a visible consequence after a sailor/soldier had a weekend bender.

During his later career he worked in HR for a large industrial company. If he saw an applicant had a tattoo and was a fellow WWII vet, he would ask them: “tell me the story how you got that tattoo....”


8 posted on 07/15/2023 11:45:08 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Zhang Fei

Are they bringing in Russian hookers, or are the Ukie girls collaborating? If so there is some head-shaving and shame parading to be done once hostilities cease!


9 posted on 07/15/2023 11:45:17 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Zhang Fei

They don’t call them ‘Hookers’ for no reason!


10 posted on 07/15/2023 12:16:23 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Zhang Fei

They aren’t professionals, they’re prostitutes. A professional is one doing challenging cognitive work based on a considerable amount of theoretical knowledge and education. An engineer is a professional, a whore is a whore.

There’s no such thing as a sex “worker”, if it’s work, you’re doing it wrong.


11 posted on 07/15/2023 1:05:19 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: Zhang Fei

They must have run out of women to rape.

Russian soldiers sound like thirteen year old children who don’t know how to control their basic functions.


12 posted on 07/15/2023 1:08:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: PGR88

My father in law and his brothers got tattoos during WWII. Their stories all started with, “I figured I was going to die….”


13 posted on 07/15/2023 1:10:06 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: libertarian66

What are professional sports?


14 posted on 07/15/2023 1:51:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: libertarian66

Massaging your girlfriend isn’t work but working as a masseuse for random walk-ins is.


15 posted on 07/15/2023 1:54:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Vermont Lt

Can’t you just get the action and dispense with the tattoo?


16 posted on 07/15/2023 2:09:13 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Go to see Sound of Freedom. Encourage everyone you know to see it.)
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To: libertarian66
An engineer is a professional, a whore is a whore.

An whore is a sexual engineer.

17 posted on 07/15/2023 2:24:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Not all of them.


18 posted on 07/15/2023 2:25:52 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: Zhang Fei

Russian women are quick to take advantage of this apparently.


19 posted on 07/15/2023 2:56:22 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Savage Beast

Having not faced the beaches of Europe or the Pacific…I haven’t any idea.

I never found tattoo’s particularly interesting…but to each his own.


20 posted on 07/15/2023 4:03:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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