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Ukraine is a Disaster, Putin is the Moderate, & Truth is the Victim
Armstrong Economics ^ | 25 July 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 07/25/2023 4:26:03 PM PDT by delta7

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To: adorno

Sorry if your post was sarcastic and I missed it.


41 posted on 07/25/2023 6:49:10 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook; buwaya

“I’m sorry did you literally miss the constant genocide West Ukraine was doing against East Ukraine since 2014 until 2021?”

Oh, stop with the hyperbole. The accepted figure of deaths in eastern Ukraine from 2014 through 2021 is 14,000 (and pro-Russia Freepers cite that number religiously). HOWEVER, they always fail to mention that the majority of those deaths were from combatants, not civilian (the latter of which is estimated at 3,500; and that includes both ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians).

You guys really need to look at the facts behind your wild claims.


42 posted on 07/25/2023 6:49:14 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Jim Noble

“I want the Russian empire back, not the USSR.”

They were both bad.


43 posted on 07/25/2023 6:52:49 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Williams
Sorry if your post was sarcastic and I missed it.

I should probably perhaps maybe, put a sarcasm tag behind my posts, but I keep hoping that perhaps maybe probably (???) people can notice without the tag. ;)
44 posted on 07/25/2023 6:54:10 PM PDT by adorno
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To: delta7

Bookmark and thank you.


45 posted on 07/25/2023 6:55:20 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Timber Rattler
Or this ...?

Or this ...?


46 posted on 07/25/2023 6:58:56 PM PDT by BlueLancer (One for all ... All for one ... Every man for himself) (Moe, Larry, and Curley)
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To: delta7

Utter buffoonery. Putin has murdered more Russian speakers than any Kremlin leader since Stalin. The last thing he is is moderate.


47 posted on 07/25/2023 7:02:46 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: buwaya
Why should I waste my time for you.

But just a few examples. I worked for Hughes Aircraft Company and most of its divisions were sold off to Raytheon. Missile Systems division was one of them. I have a friend that retired for that division. Raytheon is now begging for retired employees to come back to work because we are now out of missiles. The 2,000 or so of our stock that went to Ukraine and we only make a third of that or less in a year and now we telegraph to China and Russia we have none left and are begging people to come back to work that still no how to make them. How is that for a start we are exhausted of MANPADS.

We are very short of all artillery 105mm, 155mm, MLRS, HIMARS, and others and Biden telegraphed that to our enemies as well on live TV no less.

48 posted on 07/25/2023 7:05:14 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm

I said MANPADS, but should have said Stinger Missiles to those that do not know what our MANPAD is.


49 posted on 07/25/2023 7:12:05 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Boomer
I hope we can all agree the sooner this conflict is ended, the better. The neocon’s attempt to oust Putin using Ukraine has failed. Time to put this one into the history books and call it a night.

Let’s get back to fighting the woke globalist monsters hell bent on destroying humanity as we know it.

It's all the same fight against the same entities. Just like all the political and economic destruction we've been through the past few years is NOT just about diverting attention (and prosecution) away from the Biden crime family.

Joe is a political animal from way back and he may have the spite and the goods to bring the temple down with him, so to speak. If he sees his family business being busted and is facing jail, Joe may be reckless enough to start talking. So "they" may have decided to protect him at all costs until he can no longer communicate.

50 posted on 07/25/2023 7:26:34 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: Mat_Helm
Putin has only damaged less than 10% of Ukraines cities and infrastructure.

Riggght...


51 posted on 07/25/2023 7:28:40 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
I’m sorry did you literally miss the constant genocide West Ukraine was doing against East Ukraine since 2014 until 2021?

That bit of Russian propaganda has been posted and debunked many times already, but you are still trying.

Show us how much you know. Tell us exactly how many people in "East Ukraine" were killed in 2021 during your supposed "genocide". And how they were killed.

52 posted on 07/25/2023 7:29:07 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Timber Rattler
Right...


53 posted on 07/25/2023 7:32:46 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: blitz128
Solid theory there I must admit

Oh come on. Everybody knows that Joe Biden is such a genius at manipulation that he has tricked Putin into invading Ukraine. Without the evil genius of people like Joe Biden and maybe his sidekicks Victoria Nuland, Hunter Biden, and Alexander Vindman, Putin would never have thought of invading Ukraine and destroying his credibility on the world stage.

But the "neocons" are so much smarter than Putin that they tricked Putin into invading Ukraine.

54 posted on 07/25/2023 7:33:13 PM PDT by freeandfreezing (I am sure I need the sarcasm tag, Putin's FR posters won't get it otherwise.)
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To: Mat_Helm

Stinger manpads?
What use are Stingers on the Pacific ocean?

What use are 155mm howitzers? Are you planning to line up a battalion of M777 on a carrier deck? HIMARS GMLRS lack range for any likely use.

What you need are long range antiship and land attack missiles, Standard SAM, ABM systems, etc.
Possibly ATACMs to shoot at the Spratleys from Palawan (already deployed).

The only critical item relevant to the Pacific, in use in Ukraine, is Patriot.


55 posted on 07/25/2023 7:34:29 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: adorno

your mythical boogeyman

the soviet lib usa

is the enemy

pc shariah jihad dncniks

a border war

in eastern Europe

is none of our business


56 posted on 07/25/2023 7:34:53 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: Timber Rattler

So what are you Ukrainian war enthusiasts pushing for or supporting? NATO involvement, U.S. boots on the ground, endless supply of weapons to kill more people, or any manner of other things that start World War III as a result? Just what more are you suggesting we should do other than try to end the conflict now?


57 posted on 07/25/2023 7:39:26 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm
We are very short of all artillery 105mm, 155mm, MLRS, HIMARS, and others and Biden telegraphed that to our enemies as well on live TV no less.

Take a look at the inventory in storage in 1995. The US has vast supplies of artillery shells and missiles. And many more of the modern types of shells were made since then.

58 posted on 07/25/2023 7:39:43 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Firehath
a border war in eastern Europe is none of our business

Until the fighting spills over into Turkey, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, or any other NATO country.

Then young Americans will be on the front line instead of Ukrainians.

I'd rather help the Ukrainians stop the Russian aggression than end up with Americans doing the fighting.

59 posted on 07/25/2023 7:44:00 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

I knew people would agree with me 😂


60 posted on 07/25/2023 7:45:00 PM PDT by blitz128
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