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J. Robert Oppenheimer

1 posted on 07/30/2023 5:16:12 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Me and a friend went to see the flick this week.. It's a pretty good movie with lots of history.. That, in it self, is rare nowadays...
2 posted on 07/30/2023 5:26:44 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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I enjoyed the movie. But it is structured oddly, with various plotlines and timelines interwoven so it can be difficult to remember things like “when did these guys first meet?” because the answer can be “very early”(in the film) and also “very late” (in the real world). Lots of personalities to keep track of. I plan to see it again, because there was a lot to take in (and I’m pretty familiar with the topic).

It should be noted that the communist sympathies are never portrayed as a bad thing, spies are talked about but actual spies are downplayed, and the general tone is that moral people are Leftists and Leftists are moral people.

But, at the same time, the vile nature of government bureaucrats, the in-fighting, and vindictiveness of people in power is made clear. Government is not your friend. I think it is an unintended message, but if you read between the lines (so to speak) you can see the early stirring of the Deep State.


3 posted on 07/30/2023 5:30:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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I haven’t seen the movie, and I know this woke crap for Academy Awards qualification doesn’t kick in until 2024, but I’d be curious to know how a movie like “Openhemimer” qualifies in terms of the Academy’s moronic ‘diversity and inclusion’ standards.


5 posted on 07/30/2023 6:21:28 AM PDT by Stosh
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One sided story tilted heavily in favor of Oppenheimer who is named in the Venona Project btw. Lewis Strauss was a conservative Repub and ticked off a lot of dems who were denied federal funds for specific contracts. In the 1958 election, the Senate dems expanded their control and led by LBJ went after Strauss (Who was recessed) and denied his appointmet in 1959. That movie needed a lot of Paul Harvey to flesh the context out.
9 posted on 07/30/2023 6:43:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi
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Years ago I saw a University production of “In the Matter of J. Robert Oppenheimer..” and it was a very powerful play.. His life was certainly almost as complex as “The Bomb..”


12 posted on 07/30/2023 6:57:13 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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I don’t know Jean Tatlock’s story. Steyn writes that she died by suicide, under suspicious circumstances, in 1944. Details, anyone? And what was suspicious about the circumstances? How long did her affair with Oppenheimer last? Did it predate the Manhattan Project? Had Oppenheimer broken it off before her suicide? She was a card carrying communist, Oppenheimer was an unrepentant fellow traveler who lied about his communist connections to the FBI, and the Manhattan Project was target #1 for Soviet intelligence. Suspicious circumstances might mean almost anything.


14 posted on 07/30/2023 9:04:42 AM PDT by sphinx
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15 posted on 07/30/2023 9:36:47 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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I have read enough about Oppenheimer to neither respect nor like what he was (he was a leftie). I spent some time in the mid 1970’s studying details of WWII and the Manhattan Project. That was after the Freedom of Information act made it legal to write about.

Years ago I had a discussion of his famous phrase from the from The Bhagavad Gita (in Sanskrit), “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”

In that conversation with a Hindi speaking Indian told me that Oppenheimer totally misinterpreted the passage.

Here is a recent article saying that.


Oppenheimer Features Verse From The Bhagavad Gita; Here’s What It Means (Jul 24, 2023)

https://www.republicworld.com/entertainment-news/hollywood-news/oppenheimer-features-verse-from-the-bhagavad-gita-heres-what-it-means-articleshow.html


17 posted on 07/30/2023 10:19:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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Op Ed by Barton Bernstein, a Professor of History at Stanford

Opinion: Nolan’s ‘Oppenheimer’ marred by 5 historical inaccuracies

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/07/29/opinion-nolans-oppenheimer-marred-by-5-historical-inaccuracies/amp/


18 posted on 08/06/2023 9:28:12 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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