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Poland rushes troops to border, Belarus denies helicopter violation
Reuters ^ | August 1, 2023 | Agnieszka Pikulicka-Wilczewska

Posted on 08/02/2023 3:46:54 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: JonPreston; DIRTYSECRET
IvanPreston Take Liev. Please.

That what you Russkies want, right?

Not going to happen towarisch

21 posted on 08/02/2023 6:33:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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"Ukraine now has some unfinished business with Belarus. Poland should get in on it."

Are you willing to be drafted to fight WW 3 armchair warrior? You must be or you would not be cheering on the widening of the conflict. Or do you think that only other Americans will die for your desires?

22 posted on 08/02/2023 6:41:19 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: Cronos

I am afraid that by joining NATO Poland just went from being the vassal state of one Marxist empire to another Marxist empire. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

I don’t think that this will end well for Poland.


23 posted on 08/02/2023 6:47:51 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: Cronos

The Poles and your media masters lie through your teeth.


24 posted on 08/02/2023 6:49:24 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yep, any night now, Belarus will attack a Polish radio station just inside the Polish border.


25 posted on 08/02/2023 6:52:06 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: hardspunned

Nah towarisch — let me repeat - neither the Polish people, nor the Polish government want “ a chunk of western ukraine”

Why are you repeating that lie?


26 posted on 08/02/2023 6:56:33 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: wildcard_redneck
Poland requested to join NATO, made the changes etc. needed to be accepted and then joined when they were accepted.

So too did Hungary, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and now Finland.

Why would they join this? Because they felt a legitimate threat from Russia - and they were correct

I apologize for the language below, but it shows clearly WHY countries request to join NATO


27 posted on 08/02/2023 7:01:47 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Like I said, “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”


28 posted on 08/02/2023 7:22:39 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck; Cronos

President Trump knew what he was doing when he reactivated V Corps and moved its European headquarters from Germany to Poland.

“Poland is set to become Europe’s military superpower by “firing up a massive amount of heavy metal” creating more armoured divisions than any other continental country, military experts have said.
Warsaw is buying more than 1,000 tanks and 600 artillery pieces that will mean it has more firepower than Britain, France, Germany and Italy combined.

With Russia now regarded as a “profoundly hostile” threat, Warsaw has decided to double the size of its army to 300,000 while spending billions on armour, aircraft, missiles and drones.
It will create six armoured divisions, dwarfing the two each held by France and Germany along with the single UK division.
As its military power grows, Poland will also be able to exert more influence in the political domain, which will have an impact on European politics, experts have said.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2023/07/09/heavy-metal-poland-to-become-europes-fighting-superpower/


29 posted on 08/02/2023 7:49:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Timber Rattler

Smells like Belarus was airlifting Wagner mercenaries into Poland. If the Wagner scum get caught they should be promptly executed.


30 posted on 08/02/2023 8:10:15 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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I believe that Poland is right to armor itself up because there is nothing better for peace than a strong deterrent.

However if Poland moves its own troops into the Ukraine or Belarus it will trigger a far wider war and invite a strong response from Russia and likely pull in China as an arms supplier - at a minimum and sanctions and trade be damned. There would be no way for the West to block military shipments from China to Russia out without active military action on Russia and China because they share a border. If that happens then WW3 is around the corner and the West has its pants down due to its atrophied industrial base.


31 posted on 08/02/2023 8:51:43 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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Don’t try to make mountains out of molehills, the last thing Russia needs right now is to attack a strong NATO foe.

Poland is sending a strong signal to Russia that it is ready and Putin’s endless bluffs won’t work against it, something that Putin keeps running up against over and over from NATO.


32 posted on 08/02/2023 8:56:32 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/round-table-ukrainian-war-update-judge-napolitano-ray/

The drama surrounding Gonzalo’s fate takes place against the growing desperation of Ukraine. Ukraine’s attack on Moscow on two consecutive days with drones had zero military benefit for Kiev. One likely motive for this weak effort is the West’s persistent delusional belief that Putin’s domestic support is wilting and that these types of attacks will galvanize hardliners to oust him. I also believe that Ukraine is hoping these attacks will provoke a Russian response that will compel NATO to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine.

This is a fool’s errand and underscores the panic that is taking hold in both Kiev and NATO. We learned from the classified documents leaked from Jack Teixeira’s Discord account that a total of 12 Brigades were trained for this offensive. Normally, a brigade consists of 5,000 soldiers. Just do the math. That means a maximum of 60,000 troops. Based on briefings from Russia’s Defense Ministry, Ukraine has suffered at least 30,000 casualties since the start of the counter-offensive on June 4th. If true this means that 50% of Ukraine’s trained counter offensive soldiers have been eliminated from the battlefield. Minister of Defense Shoigu reported today that Ukraine’s casualties for July alone are 20,000. Those are horrific, catastrophic numbers and Ukraine does not have a ready supply of fresh, trained troops to throw into the battle.

33 posted on 08/02/2023 8:57:19 AM PDT by Kazan
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That was a very excited post, panicky even, evidently, these small strikes on the capitol are taking their emotional toll.


34 posted on 08/02/2023 9:07:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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If Poland puts troops in the Ukraine it risks WW 3.


35 posted on 08/02/2023 9:13:04 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: Timber Rattler

If Poland puts troops into Ukraine-Russia civil war, that is on them and should have nothing to do with NATO and the US. If anything, classify their actions as aggression and kick them out of NATO.


36 posted on 08/02/2023 9:14:52 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

If that happens be sure and post a thread on it.


37 posted on 08/02/2023 9:34:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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