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Facial recognition software blasted by DPD board of commissioners after recent false arrest
Fox 2 ^ | 8/10/2023 | Dave Kinchen and David Komer

Posted on 08/10/2023 9:12:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

The Detroit Board of Police Commissioners came out blasting facial recognition systems for being racist Thursday night.

It is the latest fallout for the false arrest of a pregnant woman for a carjacking she had nothing to do with, leading to a current lawsuit. A vote to ban facial recognition for the Detroit police failed tonight, which would have kept the department from using it for a year.

"This technology appears to be 'techno-racism,' it’s the new Jim Crow that’s falsely arresting innocent people here in Detroit," said Commissioner Willie Burton."This is the third incident here in the city of Detroit. America’s blackest and poorest city where three individuals has been misidentified by technology.

"Robert Williams. Michael Oliver who slept in the Wayne County Jail and had to eat bologna sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and dinner for a crime he didn’t commit."

But Detroit Police Chief James White defended the software.

"There are, this year 161 homicides, facial recognition has assisted us in getting 16 murderers off the street," he said.

The board discussed the matter with Chief White who doubled down on his view that the arrest of Porcha Woodruff was due to bad investigative work - not a lead generated by facial recognition.

"We don’t need to fear the technology we need to hold folks accountable, which is what this presentation is about today," White said.

Chief White said the detective who misidentified Woodruff leading to her being frisked and cuffed in front of her daughters, is under investigation by Internal Affairs.

He also ordered a broader probe to see if a mix-up like this one happened in other cases.

"This was not facial recognition identifying anybody," White said. "In fact, facial recognition identified 73 people. Human error identified the wrong person and bad tactics, we arrested the wrong person. We have to do better.

"And commissioner, I understand your passion, maybe even your anger. What I am asking you to do, is to look at this whole, total circumstance. Not blame it on a tool but hold me accountable for the officer’s behavior."

The Board is looking at a resolution that would stop the use of facial recognition until the investigation into the carjacking false arrest is finished.

"We all recognize the fact that facial recognition is very controversial," said Commissioner Linda Bernard. "And that the algorithms that are using facial recognition are discriminatory, particularly with respect toward African Americans and people of color and that’s a national fact. Harvard has researched, everybody has researched it."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: detroit; facialrecognition; michigan; technology; thatsraciss

1 posted on 08/10/2023 9:12:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

When the machine says you are Abraham Lincoln, just maybe you are Abraham Lincoln amnesiac.


2 posted on 08/10/2023 9:40:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Libtard AI thinks they all look alike


3 posted on 08/10/2023 9:54:55 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: DannyTN
When the machine says you are Abraham Lincoln

Defunded police cannot afford $1.99 for the paid app version.

4 posted on 08/10/2023 10:30:19 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Earlier story with 28 Members of Congress identified as criminals with existing mug shots in crime database.

The ACLU complaint case cited problems....
“Amazon’s face surveillance technology is the target of growing opposition nationwide, and today, there are 28 more causes for concern. In a test the ACLU recently conducted of the facial recognition tool, called “Rekognition,” the software incorrectly matched 28 members of Congress, identifying them as other people who have been arrested for a crime.”

“The false matches were disproportionately of people of color, including six members of the Congressional Black Caucus, among them civil rights legend Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.).”
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I wonnder how many of the supposedly mistaken identifications of politicians are so far off.


5 posted on 08/10/2023 10:38:12 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: NWFree

Funny.

Someday AI will send the reply: “To have safe cities again with increased citizen spending on retail, food and entertainment, stop question and frisk or else exclude all persons of color from the area.”
Then will have to be deleted as a computer error.


6 posted on 08/10/2023 10:41:21 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Excellent! Sic the lawyer buzzards on this AI bullsquat. Bankrupt the transhumanists.


7 posted on 08/10/2023 10:51:00 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: frank ballenger

THAT sounds like it was a fun test of the AI.

Makes the AI sound like it’s not ready for Prime Time.


8 posted on 08/10/2023 11:25:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: frank ballenger

AI got close enough?

Most Politicos are crooks.

Book ‘em, Danno.

Justice will be done, even if the details are more than a bit squirrely.


9 posted on 08/10/2023 11:28:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: frank ballenger

They’ll just come up with a “safe user” list, much like the TSA terrorist watch list, but in this case, giving a pass to elected politicians and others able to pay.


10 posted on 08/10/2023 11:59:18 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Why bother with all this, they let them go with a desk appearance that they dont show for anyway.

“we got our man or women, thanks for spending time with use here is a gift card for your troubles hope to see you in court”


11 posted on 08/11/2023 3:50:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: frank ballenger; Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; Maudeen; Bulwyf; HeadOn; Karliner; SisterK; ...

(Amazon’s face surveillance technology)

Oh good. The same company that’s training people in use their hands (palms) to buy their food (dry run; even if by accident).

This should end well.......🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄

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12 posted on 08/11/2023 4:18:06 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: frank ballenger

5. Perhaps facial recognition of these people wasn’t wrong.

Lots of reds/sympathizers in the Black Caucus and always has
Been - Conyers Jr, Crockett Jr, Maxine Waters, Bobby Rush, Parren Mitchell, Chicago crew, LA crew, NY city reps, including one never publicly identified, etc.

Just saying!!!.


13 posted on 08/11/2023 4:21:57 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

“facial recognition identified 73 people. Human error identified the wrong person “


14 posted on 08/11/2023 4:40:38 AM PDT by pas
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Tennis courts are racist! Light bulbs are racist! Highways are racist! Everything’s racist!


15 posted on 08/11/2023 5:50:38 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SaveFerris

There a movie with Gary Oldman as a deranged criminal where he uses the frozen, amputated hands of a crime victim to access a safe protected by a palm reader technology.

I can see it now, “Give me a hand with the shopping” .


16 posted on 08/11/2023 5:55:26 AM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: skepsel

Just might happen

Probably after the Antichrist and the False Prophet’s Stormtroopers have beheaded a Tribulation Saint (Revelation 20:4), they might just take their right hand and go do a little shopping 🛒🛍️?

Laughing, no doubt.

But not for long...(Revelation 14:9-12)

(lurkers please click on my screen name to see my FR homepage for more information)


17 posted on 08/11/2023 7:04:09 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

The article reveals that the facial recognition system is used to generate a broad list of maybes — in this case over 70. Investigators are then supposed to use other methods and evidence to decide which if any of the leads seem to be correct. The police chief says the arrest was due to bad investigative work AFTER the facial recognition process.

If the system is kicking up large swaths of people based mostly on racial characteristics, that might really be unfair. Also — where do the images in the datbase come from? If the database contains mostly people who have had prior interactions with the criminal justice system. That biases the results towards prior arrestees and excludes newbies. Then the cops can railraod the usual suspects.

But how is any of this different from the old practice of looking through books of mugshots?


18 posted on 08/11/2023 7:59:01 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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