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Russia vows retaliation for Ukraine's 'terrorist attack' on Crimean Bridge
Reuters ^ | 12 August 2023

Posted on 08/12/2023 9:14:07 PM PDT by Cronos

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To: jimjohn

I agree with your sentiment about our Southern border / illegal immigration (ie., get back to Trump Admin. policies and more to stop this crap), but, I’m sorry, your argument from there is hogwash.

First, only a complete moron could be significantly “distracted” from the border issue by the Ukraine war.

Well, I suppose that includes Brandon, but he’s not the “effector” of the actions needed on the border, and it’s highly questionable the present policies are even rationally his. And in any event, what needs to be done does not have to be “figured out”, we all know what it is. The #1 thing is to make these people unemployable in the USA, and unable to get gov’t benefits (besides a trip back to Mexico City or wherever useful and not grossly inhumane — I would not just dump them in some desolated, remote spot.)

2nd, even if we needed, say, HIMARS on the Southern border (ridiculous), we actually increased our stock of such in 2022, and will do so again (even more so) in 2023. Whatever modest military gear we might need along the border we have VAST stocks of. But again, the real solution is to kill the “attraction” at its (economic and legal) roots.


41 posted on 08/13/2023 6:28:42 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: blitz128

So, if I can’t solve it to your satisfaction, my view on it can be dismissed by you? Because thats what your loaded question is all about.


42 posted on 08/13/2023 6:30:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: hardspunned

More irrelevance from you.

Again, please tell us what weapon the US has supplied Ukraine with that could substantively damage the Kerch Bridge from over 250 km away.


43 posted on 08/13/2023 6:32:04 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Redmen4ever
Obviously! How could pathetic Ukraine hope to accomplish anything against Russia.

Jens Stoltenberg doesn't share your views.

44 posted on 08/13/2023 6:37:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BillyCuccio

yep, the neoCON fake conservatives care 100X more about Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria borders than our own Southern Border which is under complete and total invasion.


45 posted on 08/13/2023 6:43:19 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Paul R.

Currently there are no missiles openly advertised by NATO in Ukraine with ranges capable of anything past the Kremlin. The missile sites are there. The capability that the next missile pulled off the truck is one capable of striking any target in Russia is assured. The Russians are told not to worry, trust us. This is only part of “defeating Russia” and “forcing regime change in Moscow”. lt’s empty headed globalist stoogery like this that will get us all killed.


46 posted on 08/13/2023 6:48:14 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: popdonnelly

NO Good Guys here—all are bad. War IS A CRIME! It should not be permitted. Paint your propaganda any way you please but stop the killing. Too many have died—and will die in the next few years in this re-3nactment of WW I. Bridges and cities can and will be re-built—people can not.


47 posted on 08/13/2023 7:08:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

HOW long will it take to rebUild that dam????


48 posted on 08/13/2023 7:25:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: jimjohn

Well spent $0.02


49 posted on 08/13/2023 8:21:56 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: jimjohn

So, you are sensitive to insults, but you insult us in your post by calling us “war hawks” and something other than “real Americans”.

We are real Americans because we don’t like to see freedom-loving peoples being crushed by a gigantic criminal eleven-time-zone country.

You should have noticed that the counter-offensive is yielding some positive results. The Mohammedan mercenary troops have suffered tactical defeats at the hands of brave Ukrainians. Priceless Black soil areas have been liberated from the criminal land grab.

Federal spending is not the answer to our “spiritual infrastructure...collapsing around us”. Defense spending is constitutional unlike much of what bloated Washington spends money on. Federal spending is out of control but not defense spending when we have adversaries in the world.

Yes, I don’t like “Putin propagandists” and fake Americans who try to ease the way for spreading the old hammer and sickle flags across eastern Europe. Fortunately, Ukraine has been pulling down some of those flags.


50 posted on 08/13/2023 8:33:13 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Saludemos la patria orgullosos)
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To: kiryandil

[...Russian smoke generators working to mask the bridge...]

The bridge is 16-18 mi. long. Shouldn’t they mask the entire bridge? Couldn’t a drone fly around (or even through) the smoke screen?


51 posted on 08/13/2023 8:49:24 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: Farmerbob

I don’t get the inside story from the Russian military or civilian authorities.


52 posted on 08/13/2023 8:53:32 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Just their talking points...


53 posted on 08/13/2023 8:55:58 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: Farmerbob
I'm not interested in what Twitter told you.   
54 posted on 08/13/2023 8:58:20 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Who are you talking to? Do you have a random reply generator? I said nothing about twitter. I asked a legitimate question about your smoke screen theory. Obviously it is a load of crap but I was giving you a chance to defend it. By your two replies I am guessing you can’t.


55 posted on 08/13/2023 9:07:35 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: Farmerbob
I figure that you get your information from Twitter, your IPhone or your TeeVee - or all three.

I have none of the above, and have no interest in the so-called information vomited by those media disseminators.

56 posted on 08/13/2023 10:40:39 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nice non answer, even if I dismiss it, you must have a plan right? Then it can be debated. That’s how it works
As Dr Strangelove said”what’s the point of having a doomsday machine if you keep it a secret”

Please enlighten all of us


57 posted on 08/13/2023 6:45:22 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

Your response confirms and proves my suspicions about you. Whatever I would say you are ready to knock it down. You’ve already decided anything I would say is not going to work. Read the snark in your own comments and tell me otherwise.

Don’t worry though. I know what camp you are in, you would prefer this keep going so you can support one side or the other. You don’t agree with me so its clear you don’t want it to be over.


58 posted on 08/13/2023 7:08:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

, yes I want it over, and yes most likely I will disagree with it, but till you present it then there can be no discussion, sell me, and even if you don’t so what. It is your plan

Here is mine, Putin withdrawals all his troops to original pre 2014 borders .
Reparations can be discussed later

I am sure you will disagree with mine, that is fair. Present your reasons why and we can discuss it

Present yours and we can discuss it


59 posted on 08/13/2023 7:40:13 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

I agree with your two points.

In an ideal world, I would try Putin, Biden and Zelensky for war crimes and genocide and execute them. Putin for the invasion and genocide and legacy building before he dies. Biden for an undecpared stealth proxy war, disabking our military via arms transfers and the hidden biolabs in Ukraine. Zelensky for the biowar conspiracy and genocide of his own people in a proxy war with America.


60 posted on 08/13/2023 8:34:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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