Posted on 08/21/2023 9:10:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Election season is rapidly approaching. The first Republican debate is this week. The Iowa caucus is in January, and the New Hampshire primary is soon thereafter. With over a dozen declared candidates, the marathon placements are starting to take shape.
For now, don't lean too heavily on polls. First, we're too far out, and too much can happen. Second, we all know how we feel about polls. The poll showing our candidate doing well is Gospel. The poll showing our candidate faring poorly is Soros-funded dreck. As the polls change direction, so too change their designations. Rinse. Repeat.
But taking this into consideration, it is undeniable that, if all primary voting were held today, then Trump would win handily, DeSantis would come in a solid second, and both Ramaswamy and Scott will have garnered enough second-tier support to warrant vice presidential consideration. Unfortunately for whichever camp you fall into, the polling so far suggests that Trump can't lose the primary and can't win the general election.
But what should be a civil discussion among rational conservatives is turning personal and nasty — not just among candidates, but among their supporters as well. Trump-supporters are treating DeSantis-supporters like neocon sellouts, and DeSantis-supporters are treating Trump-supporters like cultish conspiracy theorists. Neither charge is merited, and the rabble-rousers on both sides would do well to cut the ad hominem attacks. Such are the tactics of leftists peddling the sexualization of children, not of principled Americans who reasonably disagree about the best path forward.
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We win nothing electing globalist one-world government UniParty hacks, as nothing will change.
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Real fine comment there, jacknhoo.
So true and I might add what campaign?. DeSantis isn’t really campaigning. Biden Isnt campaigning at all. And neither is Trump for that matter. He’s holding a few rallies, truth ing and speaking out against the 4 indictments. That’s not campaigning. All the low info wanna bees are doing nothing except showing up for the GOP non debate.
I think pretty much everyone realizes on some level its more than likely there will not be a 2024 election. Other things will be in play.
The reality is that the heart of the primary season is six months away, and the conventions are about ten or eleven months away.
Every election, the primaries are contentious and the nominee starts to solidify their support after Labor Day. That's about a year away.
Basically, things that we think are urgent now, will not be a year from now, and things that we aren't paying attention to now could be huge by the fall of 2024.
We Need a Truce: Trump’s and DeSantis’s people can’t tear each other apart and allow Biden to skate back into the White House
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BS. Only Trumpers would be perfectly fine if Biden skates back into the White House - if somehow Trump is taken out.
Just look at the Only Trumper replies here. Stick this truce talk up the ying yang.
Biden, Harris, Schumer are the enemy. Some friends in our coalition might be closer friends than others. But they are not the enemy.
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Oh how wrong you are. See the many replies on this thread and other only Trumper threads.
RDS is the primary enemy. He is to be insulted and hated at any cost. And if Trump somehow manages to be taken out?
Let America be damned.
The party’s clear front-runner has built an enormous base of support among tens of millions of Americans who aren’t even Republicans.
The GOP has spent the last 20+ years destroying its credibility among its own supporters, and anyone who runs with the perception that they are backed by the party’s leadership is destined to go down in flames during the primaries.
It would be interesting to see how the GOP leadership intends to fix this — if they even have any interest in fixing it.
There is nothing to contest.
Trump was the nominee as of Jan 7, 2020 as long as he decided to run.
He did, and it’s over.
You think any of the folks running have any shot of beating Trump? If you do you clearly haven’t been paying attention.
Trump is the most dominant player in the political arena, on either side of the aisle.
The sitting “President” doesn’t even have the impact and control of the public consciousness as much as Trump.
Desantis, not a go of the other also rans ever had any prayer of having any meaningful impact on the primary once Trump announced.
They are welcome and free to run, and try, but they are irrelevant.
DeSantis’ claims around electability are a joke, he has next to no support from the rank and file and is completely owned by the establishment money men (Cheney et al). Desantis is a terrible retail politician, it’s abundantly clear to anyone honestly watching him on the stump that this guy will be eaten alive in a national campaign, and why he’d have lost to a corrupt drug addict in 2018 had Trump not come in and dragged him over the finish line.
You want a truly contested primary you need to have someone with the ability to actually contest, the field of candidates trying to take on Trump are woefully inadequate to do so, Tucker eviscerated every single one of them with what were honestly pretty mild questioning.. why? Simple, what they stand for is what their money men want, not what the electorate or American people want.
You post this repeatedly, and I agree with you … but I think you mean January 7th of 2021.
so either trump to save the us or we are all doomed?
you don’t think someone else has the ability to save it?
You sure Trump has the ability to save it? You think in 2024 there are going to be enough (any?) republicans in the house/senate to go along with the plan? I can pretty much guarantee there will NOT be. If we are lucky, they will control both houses by a slim margin but there will be so many rinos nothing any republican president wants to do that might actually save us from the mess won’t get through either house.
(I am inching closer to a CW being the only possible way to fix this mess. Or Christ returns. That would work too)
Why cannot President Trump change his residency to say, South Dakotah, and still make a Trump-DeSantis ticket for 2024!
I still think that there will be a reconciliation here and they will move forward as a team.
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Nope, see my post 31 as a followup to post 9.
Only Trumper heads would explode at the idea of a Trump/DeSantis ticket. They would abandon Trump if he should pick RDS.
so is the polling they are relying on to write the story.
With each passing day, what isn’t in doubt is that, at least for 2024, for all the good he has done DeSantis cannot carry a national election. If he doesn’t (further) hurt his public persona during this primary, DeSantis may very well be in a position to win the nomination in 2028.
I order to have a truly contested primary you also need candidates who have clear differences in policy matters. I’m not sure most GOP primary voters can even tell you what most of these different primary characters even stand for.
That's expected to happen when he made the biggest, dumbest political mistake of his life when he decided to go up against the most popular, respected president in modern American history. This is seriously NOT someone you want calling the shots.
A few weeks ago Jim Robinson himself posted a warning about the way people on this forum were speaking to each other about their Presidential candidates of choice, and this is exactly what he was talking about.
I never thought I’d see the nasty talk I do on Free Republic but here we are.
Civility is beginning to be in short supply here and it’s a damn shame.
What nonsense?
LOL....
Still trying to smear or put Trump supporters in a bad light...
When desanctimonious has said several times, various versions of I’m not a number two guy,”
Why don’t you blame desantis for causing his own problems?
Oh, that’s right... many of the desantis supporters here don’t care if what they post is true or not.. it’s all about getting Trump..
it is President Trump or Trump and Governor DeSantis or DeSantis.
Read his full quote! His comment was perfect. He could use other words than listless, such as whatever, but the point is well made.
I’d say that to all.
I want to know your platform.
I don’t need to know your opinion of Trump.
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