Posted on 08/26/2023 2:03:00 PM PDT by NautiNurse
Tropical Depression 10 has formed between the Yucatan Peninsula and the Western Tip of Cuba. Governor DeSantis issued a state of emergency for 33 Florida counties in advance of the system.
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I wasn’t even commenting on the EO directly, just that we are ensnared in such a micro-controlled society that such an EO may be necessary.
I’m not sure what your issue is with that perspective.
Didn’t mean to trigger your anger by asking for clarification.
Same here…except 23 years. NO issues and through many storms.
then issue a state of emergency when it hits
Waiting until it is raining or until the storm makes landfall before enacting a state of emergency, is too late. All this does is allow the Florida Division of Emergency Management to begin staging resources and Floridians have plenty of time to prepare if needed.
If the forecast changes or the storm fizzles out, no harm no foul.
I get what you are saying about creating “indifference” but ignoring it until the last minute creates chaos and can cost lives.
The very same people in some instances who say what you are saying are sometimes the first to cry "why didn't you warn us, why didn't you have resources in place ahead of time?"
Now excuse me while I STHU to satisfy your command. /sarc
Cheers! ... and I do hope your day gets better for you.
HH Miss Piggy is reaching TD10 this hour.
For sure.It could easily become a 1 or 2 IMHO. Any idea how big across tropical storm force winds will be? I know it’s early but this thing looks pretty big to me.
What’s the forward speed?
Don’t worry about my day buddy worry about yours.
We’ll know much more about size and pinpoint location after getting the HH data fixes. To date, TD10 has been between stationary and meandering up to 5MPH. Once the system gets properly into the GOM, it is expected to pick up forward speed.
It gives people time to inventory their storm supplies and go stock up on Sunday, and gives stores enough lead time to restock what they’ve been cleaned out of by Monday/Tuesday, before it hits on Wednesday.
It looks like after Tueesday it really picks up forward speed which will be a big help if that continues.
Agree that a quick flyby is good for limiting rainfall. Lack of wind speed decay is worrisome for inland areas with a rapidly moving storm. Currently, the system is forecast to maintain TS winds across GA and the Carolinas as it quickly moves NE across those states. Inland damage may be substantial.
The good advice you provide does not counter my point about the problem that often occurs with repeated declarations of a formal state of emergency before any impacts occur ... especially when done repeatedly and which affect a vast geographic area. This can cause people to become inured to the emergency when their area is not affected or the effects are much less than expected.
When I lived in the midwest and back east I observed this result following periodic snow and icestorm "states of emergency" declarations. When the disaster didn't occur or was nowhere near as severe as orignially forecast people began to not take those repeated "emergency declarations" seriously ... something we must not wish to happen, not to mention the societal impacts of closing schools, businesses and roads prematurely (that's not to suggest that preparations should be made well before an advisory is elevated to a warning).
Anyway, good discussion. Cheers! & be well.
I attest to your concern.
On a biz trip thru all of South Fl. in '04,( Charlie, or Jeanne, or Frances) pushed north, also flushing the masses north. Paths were uncertain, so both coasts tried to evacuate north.
Visiting from Arizona, we panicked and soon faced the reality of no home, no motel, no power, and no gasoline. The 11am, 2, 5, 8, and 11pm updates seemed life and death to us rookies who knew nothing of the dangers and imagined only the worst.
Reflecting now, it was extremely exhilarating, but scary as hell then---as may be the reaction for rookie hurricaners.
We got the last flight out of Tampa back to the desert. TPA closed 15 minutes after departure....so it must have been Frances.
What a year for Florida with Katrina, Wilma and Ivan to deal with as well.
The only downside of a fast moving storm is you have to add the forward speed to the intensity which bumps up the damage.
Cold front coming down from the north and upper winds flowing west to east over gulf with some shear, pushing it more to the east.
Tampa better be ready for big blow up before landfall! Cat 2 predictions showing up in some forecasts, watch out
Exactly. For the uninformed: Sustained winds 80 MPH and forward speed 25 MPH equals combined wind speed 105 MPH on the dirty side of the storm.
I must be assimilating, after moving down here in 2021.
Last year, when Ian had a similar path, I was freaking. This year, this storm could still conceivably affect Pensacola, and I’m like, “Ehhhh, I’ll just use the wind to stir my coffee.”
(Note to NN: I know this is serious stuff, it’s just my inordinate fear seems to be gone. Whatever happens happens.)
Clarification completely irrelevant to my observation.
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