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Pro-Kyiv Russian fighters call on Wagner forces to join them
The Telegraph ^

Posted on 08/26/2023 7:15:49 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

Russian militants fighting in support of Ukraine have called on Wagner Group mercenaries to switch sides following the apparent death of their leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.

“You are facing a serious choice now - you can stand in a stall of Russia’s defence ministry and serve as watchdogs for executors of your commanders or take revenge,” commander of the Russian Volunteer Corps (RVC) Denis Kapustin said in a video published late on Thursday.

“To take revenge you need to switch to Ukraine’s side,” the commander added.

The group was founded by RVC commander Kapustin, a far-right Russian national, a year ago.

They fight on the Ukrainian side and are thought to be behind numerous attacks along the Russian border.

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I also heard that another anti-Kremlin rebellion could be on the way.... We shall see...
1 posted on 08/26/2023 7:15:49 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

Take the L. Your boys are getting their asses kicked.


2 posted on 08/26/2023 7:25:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: USA-FRANCE

It’s Game of Thrones level stuff over there


3 posted on 08/26/2023 7:30:40 PM PDT by Nomad577
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To: USA-FRANCE

They are wise to ask Prigo’s men to join Ukraine.

putin will never treat them fairly


4 posted on 08/26/2023 7:38:21 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: USA-FRANCE

CIA been burning the midnight oil to start one that’s for sure. Too bad their concern isn’t for the homeland. Seems to be for a handful of oligarchs trying to take over the world via America’s total destruction.


5 posted on 08/26/2023 7:41:03 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Russian Nazis want others to join them and Ukrainian Nazis.

Hopefully, they will all be killed.


6 posted on 08/26/2023 7:45:05 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; gleeaikin

If you are a conservative, you should oppose and at the very least denounce anything that has to do with the deep-state warmongering people running the Kremlin they are neocons times 10! They are abusing the Russian people and have already killed +200.000 of them on the killing fields of Ukraine.

Be on the side of the people! Not on the neo-soviets or communists’ politicians’ side.

You do know that the Kremlin deep-state caviar eating crowd has allied itself with All the communist nations of the planet? right?

Yes : China, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua, Belarus, Venezuela...
And as a bonus even with America’s archenemy the Islamic State of IRAN.

Since you are not denouncing Russia and their extremely extreme anti-American allies... what does this mean YOU are?

Are you allied to that islamo-communist alliance? Really?
Why are you so opposed to conservatism?

Are you even living in the West?


7 posted on 08/26/2023 7:49:38 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Why are you so fanatically anti-Trump??

You should support his policies!

Here are Trumps anti-Russia polices he put in place when he was President:

Arming Ukraine: The U.S. provided lethal military aid, including Javelin anti-tank missiles, to support Ukraine in countering Russian-backed separatists.

Rejection of Russia’s Annexation of Crimea: Trump’s administration consistently rejected Russia’s annexation of Crimea and supported Ukraine’s territorial integrity.

Imposition of Sanctions: The Trump administration imposed several rounds of sanctions on Russia for actions like election interference, annexation of Crimea, and human rights abuses.

Expulsion of Russian Diplomats: In response to the Skripal poisoning in the UK, the U.S. expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the Russian consulate in Seattle.

Increased NATO Military Spending: Trump pressured NATO allies to increase defense spending to enhance the alliance’s capabilities against potential Russian aggression.

Withdrawal from INF Treaty: The U.S. under Trump officially withdrew from the INF Treaty, citing Russia’s violations.

Condemnation of Nord Stream 2: Trump criticized the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany, expressing concerns over energy dependence and geopolitical leverage.

Accusations of Russian Cyberattacks: Trump’s administration publicly accused Russia of cyberattacks, including election interference and targeting critical infrastructure.

Support for European Allies: The Trump administration reaffirmed its commitment to supporting Eastern European countries against potential Russian aggression.

Suspension of INF Treaty Compliance: Before formally withdrawing from the INF Treaty, the U.S. suspended obligations under the treaty in response to Russia’s alleged violations.

Support for the Three Seas Initiative: The Trump administration expressed support for the Three Seas Initiative, promoting cooperation among Central and Eastern European countries to reduce dependence on Russian energy.

Presence in the Black Sea: The U.S. increased its naval presence in the Black Sea region to support allies and counter potential Russian aggression.

Magnitsky Act Enforcement: The Trump administration continued to enforce the Magnitsky Act, imposing sanctions on Russian officials accused of human rights abuses and corruption.

Expansion of U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas Exports: Trump aimed to increase U.S. LNG exports to Europe to decrease European reliance on Russian gas.

Sanctions on Russian Oligarchs: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin.

Support for Georgia and Moldova: The Trump administration reaffirmed support for Georgia and Moldova’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

U.S. Cyber Command Actions: The U.S. Cyber Command took actions to disrupt Russian cyber operations.

Energy Diplomacy in Eastern Europe: Trump pursued energy diplomacy to promote energy diversification in Eastern Europe, reducing reliance on Russian gas.

U.S. Troop Deployment to Poland: The U.S. announced the deployment of 1,000 troops to Poland to counter Russian aggression.

Opposition to Russia’s Syria Policy: The U.S. opposed Russia’s military intervention in Syria and supported the opposition to President Bashar al-Assad.

Russian Private Military Companies Sanctions: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian private military companies, including Wagner Group.

Support for Belarusian Democracy: The Trump administration supported pro-democracy efforts in Belarus following disputed elections and protests.

Sanctions on Russian Banks: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian banks, including Sberbank and VTB Bank, for their roles in supporting Russian actions.

Export Controls on Technology: The U.S. tightened export controls on certain technology items to prevent their use in Russia’s military and intelligence activities.

Increased Military Aid to Eastern European Allies: The U.S. increased military aid and training to Eastern European countries, enhancing their defense capabilities.

Opposition to Russia’s Annexation of South Ossetia: The Trump administration opposed Russia’s recognition of South Ossetia’s independence from Georgia.

Support for Montenegro’s NATO Membership: The Trump administration supported Montenegro’s accession to NATO, despite Russian opposition.

Criticism of Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Development: Trump criticized Russia’s development of new nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

Support for Ukraine’s Reforms: The U.S. supported Ukraine’s reform efforts and anti-corruption measures.

Expanding the Black Sea Maritime Security Initiative: The U.S. expanded the initiative to enhance security cooperation among Black Sea countries.

Opposition to Russia’s Actions in Venezuela: The U.S. opposed Russia’s support for Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro during the political crisis.

U.S. Embassy Move in Israel: While not directly related to Russia, Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem drew criticism from Russia and other countries.

Strengthening U.S. Cyber Defenses: The Trump administration worked to improve U.S. cybersecurity to counter potential Russian cyber threats.

U.S. Support for International Organizations: The U.S. supported international organizations that took actions against Russia, such as the UN and OPCW.

Criticism of Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine’s Presidential Elections: The U.S. condemned Russia’s interference in Ukraine’s elections.

Sanctions on Russian Intelligence Officers: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian intelligence officers involved in cyberattacks.

Refusal to Recognize Abkhazia’s Independence: The Trump administration did not recognize Abkhazia as an independent state, aligning with Georgia’s position.

Support for Kosovo-Serbia Dialogue: The U.S. supported the dialogue between Kosovo and Serbia, which Russia opposed due to its close ties with Serbia.

Support for Eastern Partnership Countries: The Trump administration supported the Eastern Partnership countries’ sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russian pressure.


8 posted on 08/26/2023 7:57:36 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
If you are a conservative

I'm not. Conservatives sold out long ago to the Chamber of Commerce, Israel, China, and the WEF. I'm a Nationalist Populist advocate for an Ethnostate for Legacy Americans.

you should oppose and at the very least denounce anything that has to do with the deep-state warmongering people running the Kremlin

What the Hell are you babbling about in between chews on your pacifier? NATO has encroached on Russia's borders for decades and Obama/Nuland/Hillary orchestrated the coup in 2014 which led to the events now.

They are abusing the Russian people and have already killed +200.000 of them on the killing fields of Ukraine.

Does Russia have the right to defend its sovereign, historical borders or not?

Be on the side of the people! Not on the neo-soviets or communists’ politicians’ side.

I'm on the side of Legacy Americans. I told you and the other clown Ukrainian hacks already, I don't have a dog in this fight.

You do know that the Kremlin deep-state caviar eating crowd has allied itself with All the communist nations of the planet? right?

I don't care what Putin is doing. I care about Legacy Americans. I don't want Americans fighting and dying for Globalist Oligarchs. My non-support of Ukraine does not equal support for Russia.

Since you are not denouncing Russia and their extremely extreme anti-American allies... what does this mean YOU are?

It merely means I hate D.C. and want it to focus on Legacy Americans.

Are you allied to that islamo-communist alliance? Really?

Are you a F idiot?

9 posted on 08/26/2023 8:01:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: USA-FRANCE

Wagner PMC are Russia’s version of the French Foreign Legion. They are loyal Russian patriots and will never flip.
Give up on this fantasy, you will need a different sort of miracle to save Ukraine.


10 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:20 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

“”””Wagner PMC are Russia’s version of the French Foreign Legion””””

Not even close, you should look into the French Army.


11 posted on 08/26/2023 8:27:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: USA-FRANCE

Bttt


12 posted on 08/26/2023 8:30:41 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

With cost of servicing US National debt soon to exceed entire defense budget, we must spend more in Ukraine. Defense budget must grow YUGE and stay BIGGER than interest on National debt. We can’t suddenly become fiscal conservatives and reduce the great money laundering machine of Ukraine war.


13 posted on 08/26/2023 8:42:59 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Deasantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people.)
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To: ansel12

Exactly right. They only fight for Russia and Russian interests.


14 posted on 08/26/2023 8:44:18 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

The Legion is a superbly trained and equipped and extremely elite Corps of the French Army of which only 10 to 15% of applicants make it in, while Wagner is just a group of mercenaries who in fact just emptied the prisons for 10s of thousands of its members which is why their losses against Ukranians are so incredibly high.


15 posted on 08/26/2023 8:52:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Sunsong

They might as well.


16 posted on 08/26/2023 9:25:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; USA-FRANCE

What exactly is a legacy American?


17 posted on 08/26/2023 9:27:18 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Join the Kiev fighters in what, mass suicide? This is over. The thieving Zelenskies lost.


18 posted on 08/26/2023 9:31:19 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: gleeaikin
Are you serious?

It's stock Americans who have been here prior to the disastrous 1965 Hart-Cellar Act that opened the floodgates to 3rd world trash.

White European settlers
Black decendants of slaves who came here through no fault of their own
Native Americans
Legal immigrants PRIOR to the 1965 Immigration Act

19 posted on 08/26/2023 9:34:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: CapandBall; USA-FRANCE

Large numbers of Wagners are former Prisoners/Criminals. For many of that type their loyalty is to their own survival, not to a country specifically, especially if that country locked them up for a reason they see as unfair.

If it turns out to be true that Putin has authorized the razing of the Prigozhin cemetary for dead Wagners, and also had him killed, I seriously doubth any large number of them will feel loyalty to the Putin regime. I wonder how many will accept the invitation to join one of the Russian military groups fighting along side Ukraine against this Russian regime?


20 posted on 08/26/2023 9:34:09 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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