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To: chickenlips

Yes, Trump screwed up there in hindsight.

But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.


2 posted on 09/09/2023 1:46:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.

Actually, there were some who knew what we were dealing with. They were the ones who misled the public on the origin of COVID-19, the severity of the virus, the lockdown of the planet, and the need of a vaccine.

9 posted on 09/09/2023 1:54:58 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: dfwgator

We knew it had little effect on healthy people children, and also we knew that lockdowns would leave the economy in shambles. Kemp is correct.


10 posted on 09/09/2023 1:56:28 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: dfwgator

I was sure.

The only defense I can give him is that he sometimes has to split the baby. Trying to keep the country together during a collective hysteria. I mean even FR had/has its contingents.

But there was no logic to the crazy agenda, no consistency, as we all pointed out. He is at least as smart as me and he knew that.

So yeah he has to own this one he could have been way worse but he could have been much better.


15 posted on 09/09/2023 2:02:04 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: dfwgator

A few did. But he wouldn’t listen.


18 posted on 09/09/2023 2:02:42 PM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: dfwgator

YES, great answer
“Yes, Trump screwed up there in hindsight.

But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.”


44 posted on 09/09/2023 2:33:18 PM PDT by RWGinger (FJB)
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To: dfwgator
But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.

Bingo!

Trump was listening to the nation's top experts while in the same moment Kemp had no concern over being impeached for ignoring those experts. The circumstances were so different as to make any comparison as Kemp now tries to do irrelevant.

Kemp may be a "high profile" Republican, but it is for all the wrong reasons.

55 posted on 09/09/2023 2:42:30 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Open borders are the most cost-effective way to dilute a nation's culture, look around the globe. )
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To: dfwgator

Agreed. And to be more accurate, Trump took issue with just one aspect of Georgia’s re-opening - nail salons. In general, Trump had been encouraging local and state officials to re-open. He just had an issue with that particular instance.

Kemp can pearl clutch over this all he wants. Trump may have criticized Kemp over the nail salon issue but he never stopped him from re-opening. But Kemp stopped Trump from winning Georgia’s electoral votes when he refused to address the cheating. I’d say that makes Trump the one who has a right to be angry, not Kemp.


70 posted on 09/09/2023 2:57:41 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: dfwgator

De Santis asked questions and decided against the shut down. Trump
should have asked questions too.

I’m from NY and I remember when it was common knowledge that Trump was a germaphobe - not Howard Hughes level but still a little freaky - and it was hard for him to even shake hands. So I think this may have influenced him, and the Dems knew it.

But one of the really bad things about Trump’s personal attacks is that he drove off people who could have and would have supported him.


78 posted on 09/09/2023 3:05:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: dfwgator

Everyone listened to Fauci initially. Kemp did too for awhile. If anyone went against the CDC in March, April or May, they were pilloried by the media. I guess Kemp doesn’t remember that part of the CoVID hysteria. Convenient memory, I’d say.


80 posted on 09/09/2023 3:15:33 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: dfwgator
I said at the time that GOP governors like Kemp and DeSantis would have acted very differently in the summer of 2020 if they were facing re-election in November 2020.

From my profile page:

We're all getting a first-hand look at how a society operates when it's run by people who are always catering to the mindless whims of suburban Karens. Our leaders are invariably going to end up making decisions that are idiotic and irrational ... and they're going to feel completely unaccountable when they fail.

82 posted on 09/09/2023 3:21:12 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: dfwgator
But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.

Yes, I agree he could’ve done better on his response to that crap. But, as you said, the Democrats blindsided him with that as they did the rest of us. Trump wasn’t let in on it.

90 posted on 09/09/2023 3:30:05 PM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: dfwgator

The worst thing he did in my mind was eliminate the risk by giving everyone immunity via the emergency orders. upset the natural balance.


95 posted on 09/09/2023 3:39:57 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: dfwgator

“But to be fair, at that time, nobody was really sure what we were dealing with.”

Very true, but to contrast Covid and Election fraud, we know exactly who is playing games with election integrity, and key among the perps on the right is both Kemp and Raffensperger!

Two of the biggest scumbags in office!


101 posted on 09/09/2023 3:51:21 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: dfwgator

Wrong. I knew in December 2019. There were plenty of voices in the white house asking for reason and to slow down. Trump has doubled down on his lockdowns and big pharma blank checks. He is the prez who did that. Stop fooling yourself. He read the CARES act he signed with VP Fauci.
He gave the marxists DACA.
The left could have never gained this much control with Obama as prez.
How long will you accept and excuse his behavior and his current doubling down and strutting on stage talking about his wonderful covid response.


108 posted on 09/09/2023 4:14:26 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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Brian Kemp wouldn’t have won without Trump. We hear that about Ron, but not Brian.


111 posted on 09/09/2023 4:22:47 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: dfwgator

I have said for a long time that the first 3 years of the Trump presidency were amazing given the opposition and backstabbing he faced.

His last year was an abject failure. He abdicated his Presidency (and our freedom) to Fauci and sowed the seeds of his own destruction by not securing the election. I give the RNC even lower marks than him on election security.

There is not enough lipstick for the pig that was his last year with Covid. It was a complete disaster but at least he stopped bragging about “warp speed”.

Regardless, as an old man with three teenagers he remains the candidate I trust most to keep my children out of some useless war that enriches the elites and that is my #1 issue for the rest of my voting days.

I am not a fan of Kemp, but he is telling the truth on this one.


120 posted on 09/09/2023 4:32:34 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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Your hindsight is erroneous and Kemp should shut up. Trump was upset because Kemp was blowing past the reopening protocol rather than wait to see the results of each phase. Kemp was in a panic over the Georgia economy and lost over 9,000 in 2020 and almost 16,000 in 2021 to covid.

Kemp was late to react when covid began and held a dumbfounding press conference with his medical advisor saying he didn’t know it was person to person transmittable. He never put us in a hard lock down in Georgia unlike some states but there were places like city of Atlanta where the Democrat mayor was more strict than the state. Kemp seemed ill equipped and unprepared out of the gate on covid but muddled through.

Kemp lost less than half the citizens of self-styled covid warrior RDS.

Trump deserves credit for saving lives early with his travel restrictions and for giving governors the flexibility and support to do what they were elected to do. Some killed more, some stole freedoms but that’s the leadership elected by the state’s citizens. Trump pushed back against Fauci and moved towards reopening the country. No one moved forward with reopening without the federal guidance so pretending any governor beat Trump to the punch is BS.

At covid briefings Trump spoke out about his concerns for lock down side effects of missed medical treatments, mental health effects, learning effects as well as the economic impact. He did begin to sideline Fauci and brought in Scott Atlas for a different viewpoint. Liar Fauci would have kept us locked downs forever.

Everyone attacks Trump over covid but few notice how much better his record was in terms of cases and deaths compared to Biden even though Joe had vaccines, treatments and weaker strains to contend with. Even Poltifact had to concede the numbers.

Trump correctly noted even back in late 2020 his failure on covid was messaging. It’s one of the few times he admitted a misstep.

I also continue to point out the vaccines weren’t even out of trial before the 2020 election and Trump never pushed for a mandate.

123 posted on 09/09/2023 4:39:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: dfwgator

Bingo better safe then sorry


138 posted on 09/10/2023 8:59:44 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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