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House Speaker McCarthy to Hardliners: ‘It’s Like You’re Walking Into a Fight Losing’
The Messenger ^ | 9/20/2023 | Lindsey McPherson

Posted on 09/20/2023 11:49:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has a message to fellow Republicans blocking their party from advancing government funding bills: You're making it impossible for the party to win any concessions from Democrats.

"If Republicans hold Republicans back from moving bills it's like you're walking into a fight losing," McCarthy, R-Calif., told reporters Wednesday. "And I've never understood that situation. So I want to be able to win these battles."

House Republicans had hoped to pass a short-term government funding bill this week that contains spending cuts and border security policies to show party unity heading into inevitable negotiations with Senate Democrats and President Joe Biden. But leadership had to pull the bill from the floor amid opposition from ultraconservatives.

Congress is in serious danger of missing the Sept. 30 deadline, which means the government will shut down on Oct. 1.

The stopgap spending bill is needed to buy more time for lawmakers to pass all 12 annual appropriations bills. The House has passed only one of those bills as ultraconservatives have blocked attempts to move others, including a failed procedural vote Tuesday to begin debate on the massive defense spending bill.

House Republicans plan to meet again behind closed doors at 4 p.m. Wednesday as arm-twisting continues to try to get the fractured party to coalesce around a government funding plan.

Every spending bill House Republicans are trying to pass was drafted solely by their party and contains partisan policies that Democrats oppose. They say they want to pass the most conservative bills as an opening bid in negotiations so they have more leverage to extract concessions from President Joe Biden and Senate Democrats.

But McCarthy and others say ultraconservatives who are blocking the GOP-drafted bills from moving forward are making it far less likely they'll be able to secure any policy wins.

Rep. Garret Graves, R-La., a McCarthy ally tasked with helping unite disparate factions of the GOP Conference, left a meeting in the speaker's office late Wednesday morning saying there had been no breakthrough in the intra-party negotiations on the short-term government funding bill.

"Take the conservative win," Graves urged his colleagues holding up the bill, warning that other Republicans are talking about working with Democrats to pass a funding extension that would contain no conservative priorities — including spending cuts and border security policies.

"Every day we get closer to a shutdown, I think the more leverage you're giving to Joe Biden, the more leverage you're giving to [Senate Majority Leader Chuck] Schumer and ultimately we get a clean [stopgap], meaning existing funding levels, and you would get no conservative wins," he said. "To me the choice is so clear on which option you pursue."

While some Republicans have suggested their party start working with Democrats on a stopgap funding plan, McCarthy is not ready to go that route.

"I think the best thing to do here is, which would make the Republicans in a much stronger position, which I've advocated the whole time in conference, is for us to pass our appropriation bills and for the Senate to pass theirs," he said.

McCarthy said he's not spoken to Biden at all about government funding.

Some ultraconservatives in the House Freedom Caucus who helped cut the deal that Republicans are trying to pass also argue that failing to unite around a bill will all but ensure the party gets nothing out of the funding negotiations.

"We wanted to tell Democrats you should either shut down the border or you're going to deal with a shutdown government," Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, the Freedom Caucus' policy chair, said on Fox News Tuesday night. "Unfortunately, now we are in danger of turning over home field advantage to the Democrats and giving Democrats power to make the decisions next week rather than doing our job. I think that's a mistake."

Many of the holdouts have been unmoved by that argument.

Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., who appeared on Fox News' "Hannity" alongside Roy, said he doesn't support any stopgap spending bill that would "lump every disparate agency of government into one vote." Gaetz, who did not participate in the blockade of the defense bill, has been pushing for the House to focus on passing the individual spending bills even if it means blowing past the funding deadline.

"We will have a shutdown. But I don't believe that an 8%, 30-day cut would have yielded the programmatic reforms that would create any long term savings," he said of the GOP stopgap bill. "The only way to do that [is] open amendments, individual bills, no more continuing resolutions or omnibus."

Gaetz has threatened to force a vote on ousting McCarthy for not upholding his promise to advance the 12 spending bills individually and on time, among other undelivered commitments.

"Speaker McCarthy deserves all the criticism and more, because it's his fault that we haven't considered individual appropriations bills up to this point," Gaetz said.

While Gaetz has continued to point public blame at McCarthy in recent days, he has not offered any indication on when he may actually trigger a vote on a so-called motion to vacate to oust him as speaker.

Gaetz or an aide did leave a copy of such a motion in a bathroom. McCarthy declined to comment on that Wednesday.

Despite the challenges he's confronting, McCarthy continued to project optimism that he'd be able to work through them, like he did in the January speaker's race where it took 15 ballots for him to win over enough of his critics to secure the gavel.

"I'm not going to give up," McCarthy said. "This country is too important. This job is too big. So any time you have an obstacle, let's not quit."


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1 posted on 09/20/2023 11:49:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker

Trump/McCarthy 2024!


2 posted on 09/20/2023 11:51:31 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Alter Kaker

“So I want to be able to win these battles.”

Surrender monkey.


3 posted on 09/20/2023 11:53:18 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Alter Kaker

Simple solution: advance bills your party agrees to.


4 posted on 09/20/2023 11:55:50 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Short term budget with short term spending cuts? Lame and worthless.


5 posted on 09/20/2023 11:56:33 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (The kernel of our firm's job is to go with lots. - tnlibertarian job offer letter)
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To: Alter Kaker

“You’re making it impossible for the party to win any concessions from Democrats”

That’s the Deep State problem in one sentence.

McCarthy starts from the position that Dems run it all, and he has to beg for “concessions” from THEIR plans.

Flip the switch.
Make THEM come to you begging for concessions from YOUR plan.

It’s the main reason why we didn’t want him to be SOTH in the first place. The misgivings are playing out.


6 posted on 09/20/2023 11:56:51 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Alter Kaker

The problem with Kevin is he never wins any concessions.


7 posted on 09/20/2023 11:58:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Alter Kaker
It seems odd to me that McCarthy is so smart that he knows something will fail. Yet he seems unaware that his policy of annual Continuing Resolutions in September followed by Omnibus budgets at. Hristmas has been a failure for the past 14 years. Strange.
8 posted on 09/20/2023 11:58:08 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Alter Kaker

Do the democrats ever define their obstructionism as losing? Sounds like Mccarthy wants his side to concede out of the gate. Loser.


9 posted on 09/20/2023 11:58:08 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Alter Kaker

Kevin, when has the GOP ever been able to win any REAL, QUANTIFIABLE, TANGIBLE concessions from Democrats?

Please name ONE, Just ONE, Any ONE.

Walking into a fight, fighting and then losing is one thing. Walking into a fight and never fighting and then losing is worse.


10 posted on 09/20/2023 11:59:18 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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‘It’s Like You’re Walking Into a Fight Losing’

Weird how he never says that about demoncraps. But then again, he doesn't actually fight them, just rolls over.


11 posted on 09/20/2023 11:59:22 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Always best to give up without a fight, right McCarthy?


12 posted on 09/20/2023 12:06:29 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Alter Kaker

McCarthy doesn’t have the cajones to be speaker.


13 posted on 09/20/2023 12:07:22 PM PDT by chopperk
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To: Macoozie

Exactly. I can’t add anything to your post.


14 posted on 09/20/2023 12:08:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: Alter Kaker

When was the was time Congress actually submitted a budget for approval? Anytime in this century?
That is the real problem, no more spending authorizations and 2000 page Omnibus Spending bills we want an actual budget with no Amendment Riders on it.


15 posted on 09/20/2023 12:14:48 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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“If Republicans hold Republicans back from moving bills it’s like you’re walking into a fight losing...”

What McCarthy fails to “get” (or at least pretends to) is that they are not moving Republican bills, they are moving Democrat bills. They are carrying water for the enemy. That can never be a “win”, even if the enemy lets you catch a few drops that spill from the bucket along the way.

You will never see Democrat leaders behave this way. They will never agree to assist the Republicans in “moving bills” when Republicans are in power. Their entire party will dig their heels in and obstruct for years at a time.


16 posted on 09/20/2023 12:14:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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“we want an actual budget”

It’s sad that in my youth Republicans used to be fighting to try to pass a Balanced Budget amendment, and now we would be ecstatic if they would just pass any old budget at all.


17 posted on 09/20/2023 12:17:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Alter Kaker
"You're making it impossible for the party to win any concessions from Democrats."

LOL!! When was the last time you got a concession from Democrats? All you guys ever do is MAKE concessions to the Democrats. It's called "going along to get along," and you're experts at it.

18 posted on 09/20/2023 12:22:36 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Alter Kaker

Standard Bushy GOP-E response we heard for 3 decades now. “We win by surrendering to the Democrats”.


19 posted on 09/20/2023 12:50:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Biden Regime delenda est)
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To: Alter Kaker

Hey you bush league chamber of commerce worshipping republiCAN’T...
You lose 100% of everything that you refuse to fight...
Loser


20 posted on 09/20/2023 2:04:56 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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