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Hunka affair is another death rattle from a Liberal government with dimmest grasp of international affairs
National Post [Canada] ^ | Sept. 26, 2023 | Don Braid

Posted on 09/27/2023 8:47:20 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

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To: oil_dude

“Ukraine is a Nazi nation. Thats where the Nazis and SS fled to after fall of Berlin.”

The Ukraine as it was called, was a Nazi collaborator state during World War Two and The Holocaust. But it was part of the Soviet Union both before and after the war, run by Khrushchev and overseen by Stalin and the Kremlin. The Red Army presence there was enormous.


21 posted on 09/27/2023 11:07:34 AM PDT by Luke21
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>> But it was part of the Soviet Union both before and after
>> the war, run by Khrushchev and overseen by Stalin and the
>> Kremlin. The Red Army presence there was enormous.

The original poster needs to get their geography right. Any surviving SS/Nazis took flight as far away from the Soviet Union as possible. Some ended up in the Middle East, serving as advisors to Syria and Egypt against Israel. Some went to Latin America.

Not only the Red Army, but it was chock full of Stalins NKVD/MGB secret police, who carried on their brutal repression as well as hunting down any surviving Nazi collaborators.

The Ukraine did not exist as a sovereign state after 1920 or so, when it was absorbed into the USSR. The Western Ukraine was part of Poland and was annexed by the USSR in 1939 when they invaded Poland.

We like to see history as black and white, good guys vs. bad but it is not. The fact that USSR fought and hunted down Nazis does not excuse or whitewash the horrors and crimes of Stalinism and Communistm.

The fact that anti-Communist Ukrainians like OUN-UPA, or this Hunka guy fought the Soviets and were co-belligierents with the Nazis does not excuse or whitewash any role they may have played in the mass murder of Jews, Poles, etc.


22 posted on 09/27/2023 11:47:51 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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>> That’s where numerous Ukrainian former Nazi supporters fled >> to after WWII. The family of Christia Freeland is a well >> known example. The Russian anti-Communists who fought for Hitler like RONA were repatriated to the USSR by the Allies after WWII and many of them were summarily executed. The Allies kept the Ukrainian Waffen SS probably due to the Cold War sensibilities. The British planned to use them to wage an insurgency against the Soviets in Ukraine. The OUN-UPA insurgency against the Soviets continued into the 1950's.
23 posted on 09/27/2023 11:52:37 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Hieronymus
No, the Vatican was aware they were Nazis. The Vatican worked with the Argentinian government to secure their safe passage. Argentina has a problem with antisemitism. Alberto Nissman’s assassination and George Soro’s land purchases tell me the problem still exists.
24 posted on 09/27/2023 11:59:40 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: oil_dude

“Ukraine is a Nazi nation. Thats where the Nazis and SS fled to after fall of Berlin.”

This is such a stupid statement as to be laughable. You’re seriously saying that after Berlin fell the remaining Nazis ran into Soviet held territory. You do realize that almost no German prisoners made it home from Russia after the war, right?

Anyone even suspected of being a Nazi in Soviet territory was hunted down ruthlessly and exterminated.

L


25 posted on 09/27/2023 12:01:50 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: liberalh8ter

“The Vatican” is fairly nebulous. Sort of like “Chicago.”

No doubt somepeople were aware of some individual Nazis, more were aware that there were some Naxis among the Germans, and even more would have thought it likely that there were Nazis among the Germans.

On the other hand, everyone was aware that there were Jews among the Jews.zi”
“Naxi” is also a rather flexible term. The particular “Naxi in question was a member of the SS but so far there is zero evidence for him committing any war crimes.

Pope Benedict was a member of the Hitler youth because every German boy was automatically enrolled at a certain age. Yes, in some peoples’ eyes that akes him a Nzzi.


26 posted on 09/27/2023 4:16:40 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: canuck_conservative

Trudeau and Zelensky made a stupid mistake. They just gave Putin free propaganda to use in Russia.


27 posted on 09/27/2023 4:19:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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