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Club For Growth Cries Uncle – McIntosh Tells Donors No Attack Effort Against Trump Is Working
The Last Refuge ^ | September 29, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 09/29/2023 8:24:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

It is important, VERY IMPORTANT, to remember the Club for Growth (CfG) is the Ron DeSantis career financial vehicle. Ever since his first steps into Congress, CfG has been the primary financial sponsor for the now Florida Governor. There is no moment in the political career of DeSantis where CfG does not exist.

altWhile the DeSantis SuperPAC Never Back Down is the mechanics of the DeSantis election strategy, CfG is the well invested advising side, and David McIntosh has been the source of DeSantis’ career guidance for a decade. That’s how intrinsically connected Club for Growth is to Ron and Casey DeSantis.

CfG has also opposed Donald Trump for his “America First” economic plan from the moment they realized Trump was serious about economic nationalism, control over immigration, a renewal of the American manufacturing sector, balanced trade and reciprocal tariffs. All of these policy points are against the interests of McIntosh and the larger Club for Growth agenda. The CfG has been working against Trump since 2016.

That is the appropriate context for a memo written by David McIntosh to those who fund Club for Growth, as reported by the New York Times. McIntosh writes a brutally honest letter to the professionally Republican donor class, saying all of their efforts against Trump have been futile, and there is no effective strategy that will break the bond the American middle-class voter has with President Donald Trump.

(New York Times) – A well-funded group of anti-Trump conservatives has sent its donors a remarkably candid memo that reveals how resilient former President Donald J. Trump has been against millions of dollars of negative ads the group deployed against him in two early-voting states.

The political action committee, called Win It Back, has close ties to the influential fiscally conservative group Club for Growth. It has already spent more than $4 million trying to lower Mr. Trump’s support among Republican voters in Iowa and nearly $2 million more trying to damage him in South Carolina.

But in the memo — dated Thursday and obtained by The New York Times — the head of Win It Back PAC, David McIntosh, acknowledges to donors that after extensive testing of more than 40 anti-Trump television ads, “all attempts to undermine his conservative credentials on specific issues were ineffective.”

[…] “Even when you show video to Republican primary voters — with complete context — of President Trump saying something otherwise objectionable to primary voters, they find a way to rationalize and dismiss it,” Mr. McIntosh states in the “key learnings” section of the memo.

“Every traditional postproduction ad attacking President Trump either backfired or produced no impact on his ballot support and favorability,” Mr. McIntosh adds. “This includes ads that primarily feature video of him saying liberal or stupid comments from his own mouth.”

[…] The memo says this of Win It Back’s most promising pandemic-themed ad: “This ad was our best creative on the pandemic and vaccines that we tested in focus group settings, but it still produced a backlash in our online randomized controlled experiment — improving President Trump’s ballot support by four points and net favorability by 11 points.”

Win It Back did not bother running ads focused on Mr. Trump as an instigator of political violence or as a threat to democracy. The group tested in a focus group and online panel an ad called “Risk,” narrated by former Representative Liz Cheney, that focused on Mr. Trump’s actions on Jan. 6, 2021. But the group found that the Cheney ad helped Mr. Trump with the Republican voters, according to Mr. McIntosh. (read more)

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KEYWORDS: ads; cfg; circularfiringsquad; clubforgrowth; clubformexico; davidmcintosh; desantis; gope; lizcheney; nevertrumpers; openborders; trump; winitback; winitbackpac
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1 posted on 09/29/2023 8:24:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Club for Growth/Deep State nightmare.


2 posted on 09/29/2023 8:40:00 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I remember and in-depth article scrutinizing the various “conservative” PACs and the percentage of donations that actually reach candidates versus the amount of sheer rake-off that the organization keeps. CFG was among the WORST. Not to mention their National Chamber of Commerce type proclivities. I wouldn’t give them a plugged nickel.


3 posted on 09/29/2023 8:40:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoConPubbie

Go Go Godzilla. History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.


4 posted on 09/29/2023 8:49:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: SoConPubbie

GO TRUMP GO

Looks like more and more Republicans are waking up.


5 posted on 09/29/2023 8:54:02 AM PDT by Parley Baer (GO )
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To: SoConPubbie

Rename the PAC Sometimes Back Down.


6 posted on 09/29/2023 8:55:08 AM PDT by BozoTexino (RIP GOP)
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To: SoConPubbie

We know Trump can beat the GOP establishment. The big question is can he beat Newsom?


7 posted on 09/29/2023 8:55:13 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: SoConPubbie

TRUMP is GODZILLA bump


8 posted on 09/29/2023 8:57:55 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

https://youtu.be/muUZjovOFRg?si=wO5eygbgzf2FbKSR


9 posted on 09/29/2023 8:59:56 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“an ad called “Risk,” narrated by former Representative Liz Cheney, that focused on Mr. Trump’s actions on Jan. 6, 2021. But the group found that the Cheney ad helped Mr. Trump with the Republican voters, according to Mr. McIntosh”

hard to believe, right? that an ad narrated by liz actually HELPED Donald Trump ... well, maybe hard to believe by the morons at Club for Growth ... Stupid is as stupid does ...


10 posted on 09/29/2023 9:02:57 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: SoConPubbie
Club for Growth = Club for American Oligarchs

We won the Cold war thinking we made the world safe for democracy and instead made it safe for oligarchy.

With the removal of the single greatest external threat to democracy, Western elites lost all discipline and emerged as completely self centered traitors willing to sell out their own countries to China and willing to bend or break the law at will to enrich themselves.

We like to point fingers at Russia and China as oligarchies but the same is true here. Look at how the H1B visa law explicitly states that a visa cannot be withdrawn even if the company's application for it was found to be fraudulent. Look at the super protections given to copyrights for media companies. Look at the utter lack of antitrust action against the tech companies, airlines and cell providers. The wide open border held unlawfully open by the very agencies charged with maintaining it, both here and in Europe. The ludicrous "free trade" with China, and the almost open bribery and infiltration by China of institutions and governments in every Western country.

The biggest threat to the oligarchs is a patriotic class traitor like Trump who has the independence and means to challenge them. This is why they will do anything and break every law to destroy him, just like the Gracchi in ancient Rome.

11 posted on 09/29/2023 9:07:45 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Delta 21

Calif. recall. I do believe they supported Arnold over McLintock, the real conservative. Couda’been the Buckley Rule: ‘most conservative the can win.

Arnold did nothing to help McLintock in the Lt. Governors race-2006. It would have been a decent stepping stone. My scenario was a reelected Arnold quitting out of frustration dealing with the left allowing McLintock to take over. Politicians don’t work that way.

Arnold had a problem with the ‘hard right’. Points to McClintock types. If so what was Ronald Reagan? Arnold gave him good lip service-disingenuous.


12 posted on 09/29/2023 9:08:32 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: SoConPubbie

acknowledges to donors that after extensive testing of more than 40 anti-Trump television ads, “all attempts to undermine his conservative credentials on specific issues were ineffective.”


music...............ears


13 posted on 09/29/2023 9:17:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is gonna be a fun thread.


14 posted on 09/29/2023 9:21:38 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: SoConPubbie

is important, VERY IMPORTANT, to remember the Club for Growth (CfG) is the Ron DeSantis career financial vehicle


It’s important to remember that Club for growth is the enemy of sovereignty and conservatism. Open border, fee traitors!!
They’ve always been against Trump and real free, balanced trade.


15 posted on 09/29/2023 9:23:10 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Club for Growth is not our friend. They're wide-open borders among other things.

Godzilla is a destructive monster.

Trump is not a destructive monster.

This post should be removed.

16 posted on 09/29/2023 9:57:15 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: SoConPubbie

Every politician says something you will object to at some point. The issue is it on something you really deeply care about. Like ensuring the working class has jobs. The borders are protected. We do not get into unneeded wars.

These groups have had it easy for so long. Abortion rhetoric and let’s cut taxes. Ignore everything else we have done.


17 posted on 09/29/2023 10:16:33 AM PDT by pas
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To: SoConPubbie

Iirc Rush said often that the Establishment doesn’t understand the MAGA bond between Trump and supporters. Again, Rush is right. About 99.7% of the time.


18 posted on 09/29/2023 10:20:30 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: Gaffer

There will be a lot of FR Party pukes very up happy their little club’s multiple PAC efforts didn’t make a dent in Trump or his conservative riff-raff.

Like it or not you Party worshiping pukes Trump will be the nominee. You have a decision to make that will do more than effect your little club one election cycle. In 20 you threw that election to your good friends across the aisle and we have this crap burger of a country that YOU all forced upon us to keep the outsider out.

You can throw the 24 election as well and keep the outsider out. However, it will have devastating consequences for you and your growing ever smaller little club. The country is over, there will be no going back from the Marxist hell you helped select and the second choice results will be your growing smaller little Party will be eviscerated by your own hand. On a national level it will be done and at the state level the die off will be swift and unrecoverable. You will so alienate your base voters they will never return. You are seeing it already as conservatives are asking and saying why did I waste my time in 2022 with the current bunch of puss cakes that infest Washington in congress, they are worthless.

You can support Trump and maybe win and remain relevant a while longer or you can do what your snobbish, base gutter level instincts tell you and become totally irrelevant by your own hand. Time to decide Party Pukes!


19 posted on 09/29/2023 10:37:14 AM PDT by sarge83
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20 posted on 09/29/2023 10:41:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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