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DeSantis commits to a 15-week national abortion ban for the first time
Abcnews ^ | Sept 28, 2023 | Hannah Demissle

Posted on 09/29/2023 5:13:46 PM PDT by backpacker_c

In an easily missed moment during Wednesday night’s chaotic GOP presidential primary debate, Gov. Ron DeSantis said he would sign a federal 15-week abortion ban.

Throughout his campaign, DeSantis, who has signed both a 15-week and six-week abortion ban in Florida, has walked a very fine line on abortion access, saying that he would be a “pro-life” president and support “pro-life legislation,” but has stopped short of saying he would support any national abortion ba

This is a complete flip from the last debate in August, where the governor indicated that he would prefer states to make their own abortion laws.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; debate; desantis; flipflop; myob; undecisive
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Not having watched the first debate...

desantis signed a 15 week, then recently, a 6 week abortion ban, and has been touting that in his campaign.

So, after having said abortion should be a state right, desantis is now

advocating a national, federal 15 week abortion ban,

and weakening his own 6 week ban.

What changed? Did the wind change to blowing from a different direction?

And abortion is not in the constitution, and should be a state issue.

1 posted on 09/29/2023 5:13:46 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

DeSantis appears DeSperate. Abortion should remain a state issue.


2 posted on 09/29/2023 5:16:48 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: backpacker_c
Sounds like he is trying to combine the two parties into one common philosophy. It's either a state issue, or it's not, Ron. Which is it?

What to call the new combined philosophy? Uniparty? Deep State?

At least Ron is getting his views out in the open now, instead of waiting for 2028. Now he will be a repeat candidate in 2028.

3 posted on 09/29/2023 5:17:48 PM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: backpacker_c

You beat me to it. You are spot on in your analysis.


4 posted on 09/29/2023 5:21:07 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: backpacker_c

It took the pro-life lobby nearly 50 years to get the supreme court to put the abortion issue where it belongs-up to the govt of each state-now stop playing it for political points and leave it alone, damnit!!


5 posted on 09/29/2023 5:24:01 PM PDT by Texan5
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To: Bernard

A national abortion ban has 0 chance of passing either house. Pushing it will only mobilize the selfish single issue women vote. This is like Graham floating it 2 months before the mid terms.


6 posted on 09/29/2023 5:26:32 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: backpacker_c

The feds need to set some standards af federal level for DoD, etc. this might be reasonable because something is needed, else, like Biden now, they support it, require it in insurance, etc.


7 posted on 09/29/2023 5:44:10 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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8 posted on 09/29/2023 5:44:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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What grants a 105 day old baby with the Right to Life while making a 104 day old baby disposable?


9 posted on 09/29/2023 5:50:47 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: backpacker_c

How about a zero week ban? So crazy...it is almost like calling any abortion murder.


10 posted on 09/29/2023 5:53:26 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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What changed? Did the wind change to blowing from a different direction?

I personally think it should be left to the states, but DeSantis position, if it is indeed new, is still astronomically further to the right than Trump.

Trump called the current Florida law, of only 6 weeks that effectively ends all abortions, that DeSantis signed, quote "terrible" and a "terrible mistake."

Trump has also refused to present his own position on a number of acceptable weeks. Therefore, in Trump tradition, we should assume the worst.

Trump therefore appears to support abortions up to (9 months times 4 weeks per month =) 36 weeks after conception. That is the only safe assumption, at this point.

11 posted on 09/29/2023 5:55:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Jesus 2024)
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To: Round Earther

Politicians within the culture of death


12 posted on 09/29/2023 6:00:35 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: joma89

*What grants a 105 day old baby with the Right to Life while making a 104 day old baby disposable?*
-Very good.

*A national abortion ban has 0 chance of passing either house. Pushing it will only mobilize the selfish single issue women vote.*
-That’s our problem. Women enjoy being used and lied to.

“And she never gives out and she never gives in. She just changes her mind”.-Billy Joel


13 posted on 09/29/2023 6:01:44 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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And what about the current federal involvement? Ignore it or try to set a minimum national standard for federal agencies?


14 posted on 09/29/2023 6:02:26 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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These women are murderers and they use their collective votes to make them not murderers by law.

Repeal the 19th.


15 posted on 09/29/2023 6:04:10 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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I think more abortions would be prevented if this was a state issue. In any case, there will not be a 15 week fed ban. It’s just cheap talk. It’s more likely to make the conversation federal which will end up with Row v Wade enshrined into law and another 30 year battle to remove it. When Rats get power they use it.


16 posted on 09/29/2023 6:12:33 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: backpacker_c

In the Dobbs case the Supreme Court said the laws regarding abortion should be handled by the States.

It makes no sense for the Presidential candidates to be flip-flopping on the issue.

A President cannot sign a Federal Abortion Law after the Dobbs decision.


17 posted on 09/29/2023 6:25:03 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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>> A national abortion ban has 0 chance of passing either house. <<

And it wasn't long ago that we were told that Roe v. Wade was "settled law" after 50 years and had "0 chance of being overturned by SCOTUS".

You'll never know if you don't try.

18 posted on 09/29/2023 6:26:16 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Build Biden Better.)
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To: Golden Eagle

hypocrit....

attacks Trump, instead of trying to defend desanctimonious not standing up and advocating a 6 week national abortion ban, when desantis signed that for Florida....

And weakens his stance and possibly causing abortion to become the major issue for the left again, by advocating a federal ban, after previously saying JUST WEEKS AGO he was for states deciding on abortion.


19 posted on 09/29/2023 6:31:32 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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If you are truly pro-life, then DeSantis is your guy - not Trump.


20 posted on 09/29/2023 6:34:56 PM PDT by randita (I will support Ron DeSantis in the primary.)
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