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Why There Is Never Peace Between Israel and the Palestinians
PJ Media ^ | 10/07/23 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 10/07/2023 4:14:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In its analysis of the war that has begun between Hamas and Israel, CNN noted on Saturday that the Biden regime was just in the process of pressuring Israel to make a series of concessions to the Palestinians in order to further the cause of normalization of ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia. In this, both the sinister establishment media propagandists of CNN and the sinister kleptocrats of the Biden regime betrayed their fundamental failure, or refusal, to understand why there is this apparently endless conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in the first place.

CNN reported that “as recently as this week, Biden had hoped to be nearing the completion of a major agreement with Israel and Saudi Arabia to establish formal diplomatic ties, potentially transforming the entire Middle East. The expectation had been that the deal would include agreement from Netanyahu on certain concessions to the Palestinians, including potentially freezing settlements and agreeing to an eventual Palestinian state.”

The universal assumption is that freezing settlements and agreeing to a Palestinian state (which the Palestinians have previously rejected on numerous occasions) will bring peace. Yet this is not true, and the Palestinians themselves have made that clear on numerous occasions over the years. Back on Oct. 5, 2018, on “Not a Neighbor,” a program on official Palestinian Authority television, Sharia judge Muhannad Abu Rumi denounced the idea that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was about territory and could thus be subject to negotiations:

People could be deluded or think…that we have no way out with the Jews…The liberation of this land is a matter of faith, which will happen despite everyone. The Jews leaving this land is a divine decree…The war is not only over this strip of land,


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; palestine; peace
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1 posted on 10/07/2023 4:14:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Just a week after that, during a Friday sermon at the Islamic Center of South Florida, Imam Hasan Sabri offered a succinct encapsulation of the principle of “Drive them out from where they drove you out” (Qur’an 2:191): “If a land is occupied or plundered, it should be liberated from its occupiers and plunderers, even if this leads to the martyrdom of tens of millions of Muslims.”

Sabri ridiculed the very idea of negotiations: “Take the Palestinian cause, for example. It is not being plotted against with a deal they call ‘the Deal of the Century.’ Why do they call it a ‘deal’? Because whoever is involved in this treason is not a man of principles. These are peddlers, not men with a cause. All they want are positions and jobs. That is why for them, the cause is nothing but a deal, a matter of give and take. For them, it is nothing but a deal.”

To this, Sabri contrasted the “position of a believing Muslim about the Palestinian cause,” which he characterized in this way: “That Palestine in its entirety is Islamic land, and there is no difference between what was occupied in 1948 and 1967. There is no difference between this village or that village, this city or that city. All of it is Islamic waqf land that was occupied by force. The responsibility for it lies with the entire Islamic nation, and the [Palestinians] should benefit from this land. If a land is occupied or plundered, it should be liberated from the occupiers and plunderers, even if this leads to the martyrdom of tens of millions of Muslims. This is the ruling, and there is no room for discussion or concessions.”

2 posted on 10/07/2023 4:15:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Because Ragheads are terrorists

Next question


3 posted on 10/07/2023 4:17:18 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SeekAndFind

“ the Biden regime was just in the process of pressuring Israel to make a series of concessions to the Palestinians“

But first 6B to Iran.


4 posted on 10/07/2023 4:20:12 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: NWFree

Yup. And for many centuries have wanted all Jews wiped off the face of the earth. Israel is the apple of God’s eye….some have always hated that.


5 posted on 10/07/2023 4:22:50 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: SeekAndFind

Muslim = barbarian

period


6 posted on 10/07/2023 4:25:26 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because there are no “Palestinians”, only islamic terrorists.


7 posted on 10/07/2023 4:25:28 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no such thing as Palestinian people... that’s reality.


8 posted on 10/07/2023 4:28:44 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nebuchadnezzar.


9 posted on 10/07/2023 4:30:20 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ragheads remind me of the Left in this Country. They never give up trying to tear down and destroy things.


10 posted on 10/07/2023 4:32:54 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: SeekAndFind
...even if this leads to the martyrdom of tens of millions of Muslims.

It’s worth a try.

11 posted on 10/07/2023 4:35:10 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Ishmael of the bondwoman (Hagar) and born after the flesh vs. Isaac of the free woman (Sarah) and born after the Spirit.

He that is born after the flesh (Arabs/Islam) persecutes he that is born after the Spirit (Israel).


12 posted on 10/07/2023 4:48:52 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Palestinians” and all Muslims hate the Jews because Mohammed hated the Jews because they did not accept him as a prophet (which he wasn’t). So he started killing them.


13 posted on 10/07/2023 4:49:58 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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RE: Ishmael of the bondwoman (Hagar) and born after the flesh vs. Isaac of the free woman (Sarah) and born after the Spirit.

I didn’t read about any enmity between Ishmael and Isaac when they were alive.


14 posted on 10/07/2023 4:50:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: NWFree

Ishmael and Isaac
Abraham’s seed after the flesh vs.
Abraham’s seed of the Promise


15 posted on 10/07/2023 5:02:18 PM PDT by Theophilus 7
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To: SeekAndFind
In this, both the sinister establishment media propagandists of CNN and the sinister kleptocrats of the Biden regime betrayed their fundamental failure, or refusal, to understand why there is this apparently endless conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in the first place.

The olive branch hasn't worked in the Middle East in over two thousand years. Why should the present be any different?

16 posted on 10/07/2023 5:20:47 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: SeekAndFind

Israelis would be better off settling in the Jewish homelands — New York, Miami and Los Angeles.


17 posted on 10/07/2023 5:21:47 PM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: SeekAndFind
The universal assumption is that freezing settlements and agreeing to a Palestinian state (which the Palestinians have previously rejected on numerous occasions) will bring peace.

To the Palestinians the so-called two-state solution is only a stepping stone to the one-state solution. We are seeing today what would happen to Israelis if the Pallies had the run of things. And any Palestinian state would soon be a terrorist sh*thole, as Gaza amply demonstrates.

18 posted on 10/07/2023 5:24:27 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: SeekAndFind

The old “Land for Peace” cry was really “Land for the cessation of terrorism.”

Never negotiate with terrorists. Just kill them.


19 posted on 10/07/2023 5:25:59 PM PDT by OSHA (Dale Carnegie has a restraining order against me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So the child grew and was weaned. And Abraham made a great feast on the same day that Isaac was weaned. And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, mocking.Therefore she said to Abraham, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.”
Genesis 21:8-10

But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.”
Galatians 4:29-30.


20 posted on 10/07/2023 5:36:58 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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