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North Korea has shipped thousands of weapons to Russia: White House
Nypost ^ | 10/13/2023 | Caitlin Doornbos

Posted on 10/13/2023 2:46:47 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

WASHINGTON — North Korea has delivered thousands of weapons and other military equipment to Russia for use in Moscow’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine, US officials said Friday.

“Our information indicates that in recent weeks, North Korea has provided Russia with more than 1,000 containers of military equipment and munitions,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters on a call.

It’s unclear exactly how much materiel and munitions each container holds, but photos released Friday indicate the vessels are full-sized shipping containers of the type often seen on rail cars or cargo ships.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammunition; armsdeals; munitions; northkorea; russia; shipped; weapons
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To: delta7; ansel12

Didn’t Ukraine refuse to accept any more M777s after the fragile aluminum/titanium crappers started falling apart after ~30 shots ?


21 posted on 10/13/2023 3:57:01 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

https://abcnews.go.com/International/north-korea-russia-benefiting-striking-new-trade-deal/story?id=103113195


22 posted on 10/13/2023 4:00:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Reverend Wright

bttt


23 posted on 10/13/2023 4:04:48 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: piytar

“Super power?”

Who said they are such?

That’s simply the boogeyman argument we use, but FACTUALLY there is no Warsaw Pact, no Soviet Union.

Russia has 55% our ground forces (without them mass drafting now as now), 47% our air force, 43% our navy in manpower. They have 1/10 our economy, less high tech and less industry. Russia has 44% our population but only 40% as many men reaching military age annually. Russia has few allies, most are weak and have their own internal issues which preclude them from really helping much (we have many and very powerful allies). Russia does not have a Central and South America to reach back to for a near limitless supply of bodies like we do when things get rough (in fact many of the mercenaries in Ukraine today are from Columbia, Brazil, Argentina...). Russia’s military is largely conscripted, which means you have high turn-over (loss of trained personnel) and they generally suffer from lower morale (folks don’t want to be there).

***The only area where Russia enjoys near parity with us is with their nuclear deterrent capabilities, and that’s it!***

They have (((one))) small carrier comparable to our LHA of which we have 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_America_(LHA-6) They have nothing comparable to the 11 super carriers we have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Gerald_R._Ford Ever see a comparison in defense spending? US: $812 billion per year, Russia $72 billion per year. Sure, we like to show charts with how many thousands of tanks they have, which looks impressive, but most of their tanks are literally heaps of $hit, junk. Stuff that wasn’t equal to ours even in the 1980s, and they are (((STILL))) basically riding around in the same trash (T-72 now called a T-90, BMP2/3, BRT80) today.

We want it both ways. We puff them up in our media when convenient to pretend they are this huge threat to us, but then we want to show how they have a hard time taking Chechnya or even just part of Ukraine today... The obvious contradiction doesn’t seem to bother anyone much.

Russia is no twerp and they can bite back. But calling them a “super power” is a far stretch. That ended in 1989-1990.

Russia is an empire in decline. In reality we are gobbling them up. We are slowly but surely taking away from them all the oil producing nations which are aligned with them:

Iraq: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq Russian aligned, oil producer.
Venezuela: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gideon_(2020) Russian aligned, oil producer.
Syria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war Formal Russian ally, oil producer.
Libya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya Russian aligned, oil producer.

Of course our military interventions are for democracy, freedom, human rights, and sovereignty, even if we get caught arming some whack jobs in Syria and Ukraine.

We have expanded NATO to within 6 minutes time of flight to Moscow for a modern hyper-sonic missile for us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2468hDl6E. We are making former Soviet Republics into NATO nations: Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and we tried with Republic of Georgia and Ukraine (why we have had those two wars but no one is discussing (media or politically) the cause: NATO expansion).

Russia is a lot like some bloody dude face and belly down on the ground, with a cop over him and beating him with a club, screaming at the guy below him, “stop resisting!”

What happens to a dog when you corner and threaten him?


24 posted on 10/13/2023 4:05:15 PM PDT by Red6
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The NORKS have 50,000 artillery tubes trained on Seoul. They could send 25,000 of them to the Russians along with tens of millions of rounds and still be able to hold Seoul hostage with nuclear as well as conventional weapons.


25 posted on 10/13/2023 4:09:26 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

But will they work is the question.


26 posted on 10/13/2023 4:12:22 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Reverend Wright

Korea is an ally. They are not in NATO.
**********
North Korea?


27 posted on 10/13/2023 4:13:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Reverend Wright

No, Ukraine likes them, I think what you saw was one of those Russian internet dumps from the past that get posted here so frequently and then die out.


28 posted on 10/13/2023 4:13:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: delta7

The question was “Is there any nation on earth that wouldn’t prefer the weapons made by American allies to Russian allies?”

Not what they have to settle for based on what they can pay.


29 posted on 10/13/2023 4:17:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red6
Good analysis, if a little overkill for lil 'ol me. Smile

What happens to a dog when you corner and threaten him?

He tries his best to bite you...

30 posted on 10/13/2023 4:18:12 PM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: Reverend Wright

“””Unlike the USA and its parasitic “allies”, Russia’s “low tech” allies can actually produce weapons on their own”””

No one said anything about NATO.

Some NATO countries make great weapons also, weapons that Russia would prefer over what its allies can make.


31 posted on 10/13/2023 4:21:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Reverend Wright

Didn’t Ukraine refuse to accept any more M777s after the fragile aluminum/titanium crappers started falling apart after ~30 shots ?
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The Ukies found the M777’s very, very unforgiving. They like the lighter weight and design , but start failing miserably when exceeding the rounds per minute guidelines. Maintenance? Real pigs. The Ukies don’t have the maintenance support field teams which resulted in having to be shipped back to Poland for repairs- many simply abandoned or never made the long trip back for repairs….the recoil system requires frequent nitrogen servicing for one….fact is the Russian D30’s are much preferred, “ robust”, and they can be also be used in an anti-tank role.

…..a real shame the Ukie’s D30’s have been clobbered by Vlads counter batteries and drones…only a fraction now surviving…..hence the “ we need more” cries by the Ukies- they are depleted, “ completely reduced” as Vlad says.

In fact, our US military has D30’s, and train on them.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a26028078/us-troops-d30-soviet-howitzer/


32 posted on 10/13/2023 4:32:44 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

LOL, Some Americans are training on the system that some poor nations still use so that we can train them in it.

From your 2019 article
“U.S. troops tasked to advise and equip armies in smaller developing countries are learning how to operate an older, Soviet-era artillery piece. The Texas-based 3rd Security Force Assistance Brigade is learning to operate the D-30 howitzer, a light artillery piece widely distributed during the Cold War so it can in turn train foreign militarizes on how to use it.”

“The Fort Hood-based 3rd SFAB is currently learning how to use D-30 howitzers, training their own artillerymen in how to use them on modern battlefields. Although old, D-30s are cheap and have a respectable range. The Afghan Army uses D-30 howitzers, and Afghanistan is currently the main destination for SFABs units.”


33 posted on 10/13/2023 4:38:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red6
The Russian Army retains the structure of the old Soviet Army, which is a top down system, with little leeway given to field commanders. In contrast, the German military, even under Hitler, gave great leeway for lower level officers, a system dating to Frederick the Great of Prussia, As far back as 1920, the Poles stopped Trotsky's forces from taking Warsaw. The Finnish-Soviet War of 1939-40 was a failure, despite a huge advantage in men and resources. The Soviets did defeat the Nazis, with a great deal of material help from America and the second front opened after D-Day. Brezhnev's attempt to establish a blue water navy failed, and the expense probably contributed to the demise of the USSR. Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was a failure, despite a greater degree of ruthlessness than we had two decades later. The Russian Army struggled in Chechnya, and their invasion of Ukraine is hardly a success.

What the Russians and the Chinese are good at is subversion. I would not be as sanguine about the ready availability of Latin American men, when Communist regimes are in power in Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Cuba. The Economist, hardly a conservative mouthpiece, estimates that 12 out of 19 Latin American countries have left wing governments. Brazil's most recent presidential election was won by a leftist. Don't forget that the "B" in BRICS is Brazil. Argentina is under the thumb of a leftist government. The drug cartels, who are in league with the Red Chinese, who supply them with fentanyl, are hugely influential in Mexico and reportedly have their tentacles in the Arizona state government as well as the Houston city government.

Additionally, the U.S. military is not the Cold War era armed forces, or even the military of George W. Bush. The promotion of critical race theory, gender equity, and the LGBTQ agenda at the expense of readiness and warfighting capacity has seriously weakened our combat capability. The best and the brightest are no longer attracted to the armed services, and the leftist and anti-white atmosphere of the military is depressing enlistment and driving experienced men out of the armed forces. Additionally, America has deindustrialized, as have most Western countries, and it would be hard to be an arsenal of democracy, as we were during the world wars.

The Ukrainians are made of sterner stuff than modern Americans. My guess is that Israel will prevail against their Hamas and Hezbollah enemies, and their backers in Tehran, and the Russian and Chinese "moral support". Russia is apparently a paper tiger. Red China is another story, but they have the same Communist top down command structure.

34 posted on 10/13/2023 4:47:54 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Sounds like China shipping them to Russia under cover of North Korea so they don’t roil the US. NK can’t even turn on the lights and they have never shipped aid to any country since their inception.


35 posted on 10/13/2023 5:00:47 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: ChicagoConservative27

nothing says superpower like having to go hat-in-hand to beg munitions from the hermit kingdom...


36 posted on 10/13/2023 5:17:53 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: delta7

Ukies don’t know how to use our equipment... M113s are tin cans, Bradley ivfs are tin cans with a bigger gun and tow missles, same with Strykers. It’s a waste to even give them to the Ukies.


37 posted on 10/14/2023 12:13:44 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: Reverend Wright

Slave labor does make that easy.


38 posted on 10/14/2023 7:41:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Reverend Wright

Too bad they aren’t able to produce food on their own, lol.


39 posted on 10/14/2023 7:42:32 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: delta7

You don’t have to demonize these countries, their history of crimes against their own people right up to the present is damning enough.

Besides, Obama and Biden are the best friends any of them including Russia have ever had in the White House; Biden has bee n helping Russia since the 1980s at least, when he was busy hamstring the Contras in favor of the Sandinistas (allies of the Palestinians and Russia.) Obama set up Ukraine by blocking the air defense deal, then Biden just sent them blankets, acting like he was doing something to send them support until it was too late. Kind of like in Cuba when the US sent the anticommunist resistance the wrong ammunition. That way the Dems can enjoy the appearance of being anticommunist while actively aiding our enemies.


40 posted on 10/14/2023 7:57:59 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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