Posted on 10/17/2023 9:03:14 AM PDT by RandFan
House Session - October 17, 2023
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I don’t think it makes a hill of beans who the speaker is, government keeps getting worse.
From The Hill:
Speaker math: Breaking down how many votes Jordan needs
There are two vacancies in the House right now, due to resignations of one Republican (Chris Stewart of Utah) and one Democrat (David Cicilline of Rhode Island), making a total of 433 members. House Republicans have 221 members, while Democrats have 212.
That means a majority of the House right now is 217 members — the number often referenced as what Jordan needs to win the Speakership.
All voting Democrats are expected to vote for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) for Speaker.
So, if more than four of the 221 Republicans defect from Jordan, he is below 217 and in hot water.
However, 217 is not the end-all-be-all magic number to win the Speakership. Members who are absent or vote “present” lower the threshold needed to win, since the winner is decided by all members voting for a specific candidate.
That is how ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) won the Speakership on his 15th ballot in January with 216 votes; six “present” votes from Republicans lowered the threshold needed to win, even though a majority of the whole House was 218.
Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (R-Calif.) won the Speakership with 216 in 2021, too, as did former Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in 2015.
Because of the slim margins, Democrats have urged full attendance for all members, since their absences can affect the margins that Republicans need, too.
To find the “magic number” needed to win the Speakership if there are present votes and absences, take 433 and subtract the number of present votes and absences. Divide that number by two — and then count up to the next whole number.
But Jordan does not necessarily want to count on absences and “present” votes to win. And leaving a House GOP conference meeting Monday evening, he had more than four members publicly opposed to him.
It’s rearranging the deck chairs on The Titanic.
Am I correct in assuming that there is a 15 minute quorum vote going on at the minute?
>I don’t think it makes a hill of beans who the speaker is, government keeps getting worse.
Yeah, I think we’re past the point of no return.
Yeah, just seeing who is present. There’s one R that’s out and will be back this afternoon. The Bloomberg reporter thinks it’s not going to happen, but I think it will go through. Landry’s win in LA shows a VERY weak Dem presence during the jungle primary, maybe showing that Trump’s support is much stronger than people imagine.
Update!
RINO Don Bacon WILL NOT Vote for Jim Jordan on the House Floor: I’m Not Budging, I’m a Five-Time Commander’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/rino-don-bacon-will-not-vote-jim-jordan/
it’s gonna be a long day......
I tend to agree. I think the type of person it would take to fix or help wouldn’t be elected speaker by these fools.
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.....................
Sigh.....
99% of the jokers in congress would not make a difference as nearly all are Uniparty. Short of re-electing Trump, a Jordan speakership would be the best possible thing we can currently do to save America. He is a legitimate America Firster.
Whooooo praying and following.
Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., a Jordan supporter, is away from DC until 6 p.m. on Tuesday because he is attending a family funeral
Third in line to the presidency makes a ton of difference.
Why are you even on FR? To discourage people from political
Involvement?
He need not vote for Jordan. He can vote present and lower the threshold.
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