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The Verkhovna Rada votes to ban the [Ukrainian Orthodox Church]
UOJ ^ | 10-19-2023 | N/A

Posted on 10/19/2023 11:13:25 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

MPs adopted in the first reading draft Law No. 8371, which provides for a ban on the UOC.

On October 19, 2023, the Verkhovna Rada adopted in the first reading government bill No. 8371, which provides for the ban on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. MP Artem Dmytruk shared this news with the UOJ.

267 MPs voted for the corresponding decision, another 15 voted against, 2 MPs abstained.

Let us remind you that human rights activist Oleg Denisov said that the ban on the UOC cannot be implemented in practice.

As the UOJ reported, according to the Ukrainian MP, Ukraine's allies expressed concern about the ban on the UOC.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: easternorthodox; orthodox; ukraine; uoc
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Meanwhile, back in Ukraine...
1 posted on 10/19/2023 11:13:25 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Good!


2 posted on 10/19/2023 11:14:18 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Why do you care? Are you deeply invested in the trials and tribulations of Eastern Orthodoxy?

(Because there are many Eastern Orthodox who have convincingly argued that the current Patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, Dumenko, isn't even a valid bishop, seeing as how he was ordained by Denysenko in 2008...at a time when Denysenko had been defrocked and deposed, and thus could not validly ordain anyone.)

3 posted on 10/19/2023 11:19:50 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

They’ve replaced it with the High Holy Church of Globohomo.


4 posted on 10/19/2023 11:21:38 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
A brief reminder that the denomination banned was one that had voluntarily severed communion with the Moscow Patriarchate back in May 2022 because of Russia's invasion.

But I guess that wasn't good enough for the Ukrainian government.

5 posted on 10/19/2023 11:26:42 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Is this the group that goes around mutilating squirrels?


6 posted on 10/19/2023 11:26:46 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Wow! You really are a piece of… work.


7 posted on 10/19/2023 11:29:16 AM PDT by Right Brother (Pray for God's intervention to stop UMCRevMom's invasion of Free Republic)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

because democracy and freedom of religion.


8 posted on 10/19/2023 11:31:18 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: gundog

Can’t say I’ve ever heard about that. Got any context for that observation, out of curiosity?


9 posted on 10/19/2023 11:33:50 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

How large is the UOC in membership and number of churches? Are they mostly located in eastern Ukraine where the Russian-Ukrainians live? What is their relationship with the other orthodox church in Ukraine?


10 posted on 10/19/2023 11:34:03 AM PDT by elpadre (rattle snakes)
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As of April 2023, the UOC was apparently still the largest Orthodox denomination in Ukraine with "12,000 parishes" versue "7,600" for the OCU.

There are no reliable statistics available in terms of the number of actual parishoners, but the apparent observation seems to be that "the UOC is larger in terms of parishes. Even if the war made hundreds of parishes shift to the OCU, the difference still is large. In terms of public support and identification with one of the Churches, the OCU seems to be stronger."

11 posted on 10/19/2023 11:49:00 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
It might be the Latvians....


12 posted on 10/19/2023 11:51:21 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

That is substantial, though. I know the government has been persecuting the church for so-called Russian connections, but to ban them might well cause serious backlash among the general population. Loss of freedom to worship hits deep into the marrow.


13 posted on 10/19/2023 12:14:42 PM PDT by elpadre (rattle snakes)
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks; Ad Orientam; alex; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; bad company; ...
Orthodox Ping!

Save Thy people, O Lord,
and bless Thine inheritance.
Grant victory to Thy Church over her enemies,
and protect Thy people by Thy Holy Cross!

14 posted on 10/19/2023 12:23:23 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

How jewish of you.


15 posted on 10/19/2023 1:02:41 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: lightman

Phooey to Zelenskyy and his cronies!!!!


16 posted on 10/19/2023 1:12:28 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Right Brother

Speedy likes to drink and eat our milk and honey when it comes to Our freedom of speech,but when it comes to religious freedom for his Ukraine buddys,speedy will take a royal dump on that.
Say no more....


17 posted on 10/19/2023 1:25:27 PM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Meanwhile back Russia in Catholics and Protestants are persecuted and restrained, even though they are not tied to the intelligence services and military invasion of a neighbor that is invading Russia.


18 posted on 10/19/2023 1:42:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

And that excuses Ukraine’s decision to ban its largest Orthodox denomination because...?

(I’m of the opinion that both sides suck, and we should never have gotten involved.)


19 posted on 10/19/2023 1:45:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Because they are helping the invading forces trying to conquer Ukraine and which are currently in control of large swathes of it.

Russia is not a Christian nation and their government and the Orthodox branches they control are part of the state and intelligence services operations to have a controlled and dominant, very visual and theatrical relief valve religion to absorb any of the shallow religious impulses among the Russian population.


20 posted on 10/19/2023 1:54:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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