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Changing gas blend in Phoenix won’t drop prices, expert says
PHOENIX NEW TIMES ^ | 10-18-23 | TJ L'Heureux

Posted on 10/19/2023 1:10:37 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988

Several Arizona legislators hoped changing the blend of gasoline sold in the Valley would lower prices. They left a hearing at the State Capitol on Monday with little expert opinion to support the idea.

Phoenix drivers and businesses have paid well above the national average for gasoline this year, with prices spiking in two waves over the summer, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. In March, gas prices in Arizona were the fifth-highest in the nation. But the average price for unleaded regular gas peaked at $4.94 in May before dropping and leveling out at $4.76 in September. On Oct. 12, the national average was $3.64, said AAA.

After seeing gas prices rise, legislators have shown interest in altering a 1997 Arizona law that requires a specific fuel blend called "cleaner burning gasoline," or CBG, to be sold in the Valley to reduce pollution. The blend is only used in and around Phoenix, with states such as California using different clean-burning types of gasoline.

But in a hearing for the Joint Legislative Ad Hoc Study Committee on Air Quality and Energy, fuels specialist Gordon Schremp said changing the blend of gasoline used in metro Phoenix would do little to bring prices down. Schremp said the greater issue is that the three pipelines that supply fuel to Arizona are at, or near, capacity. The Western States Petroleum Association, a trade group for petroleum companies, said it had Schremp testify at the hearing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: blend; gas; phoenix; prices
"Gov. Katie Hobbs did not file a waiver after WSPA and oil companies urged her to do so in March. The EPA made it clear the agency would not approve a waiver, according to Christian Slater, Hobbs' communications director. "
1 posted on 10/19/2023 1:10:37 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988
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To: AirForceVet1988

Poor babies. We’re paying almost a dollar more in Hair Gel’s Kalifornia.


2 posted on 10/19/2023 1:14:07 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: beethovenfan

A buddy just sent me a pic from a gas station as he’s driving through Kansas. $3.24/gal. It’s “only”$4.67/gal in Reno at Sams club. $4.89 at others and higher. 😳

🙏🇮🇱👍


3 posted on 10/19/2023 1:17:26 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: beethovenfan

I just paid 2.89 over the weekend ...


4 posted on 10/19/2023 1:18:35 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: bankwalker
I just paid 2.89 over the weekend ...

Why put a 2/3 gallon in your car?

5 posted on 10/19/2023 1:19:47 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: AirForceVet1988

I have family who worked for Shell in CA.
They were thrilled when the special formulation was mandated.
“We are going to make a ton of money”
Ah yea its the formulation.
Funny how lawyers know more than engineers.


6 posted on 10/19/2023 1:40:28 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: AirForceVet1988
I traveled to San Diego from Pocatello in Sept 29th. Ethanol free at Maverik from Idaho through Utah. Had to use stuff with ethanol in NV and CA. Comparative prices? Ethanol free regular in Pocatello was $3.45/gallon. Ethanol polluted regular in San Diego was $6.79/gallon. Fortunately, I only needed gas once when I was ready to head back to Pocatello. I found a Maverik in Nevada on the return trip. It didn't have ethanol free, but I was able to save 10 cents/gallon with the customer loyalty card.
7 posted on 10/19/2023 1:45:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: 1Old Pro

Where are you located? I’ll drive right over from CA to fill up. Prices have “moderated” to $5.25 here in northern CA


8 posted on 10/19/2023 1:53:41 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: AirForceVet1988

Gas was $3.71 in Mohave Valley last weekend, Colorado River, Bullhead-Havasu


9 posted on 10/19/2023 2:02:35 PM PDT by eyeamok
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Ethanol polluted regular in San Diego was $6.79/gallon.

Wow. I have a gas guzzling car that uses premium gas. The worst I've had to pay in Illinois was $6/g during peak Covid in the Chicago area. I was paying about $5.5/g downstate at the time. I am currently in the range of $4 to $4.5 for premium gas. Regular gas pricing is similar to what you mentioned for Idaho. At nearly 7 bucks a gallon I can see why EVs may spark some interest with auto buyers in California.

10 posted on 10/19/2023 2:13:48 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: bankwalker

Lucky you. That’s about what it SHOULD be - if we had a president.


11 posted on 10/19/2023 2:34:09 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: AirForceVet1988

I remember our vacation to Arizona and Grand Canyon back in 1985. It was super hot Hot HOT and some idiots were selling a winter blend of gasoline in the hot summer.

Needless to say, we vapor locked all the way back across AZ on I-40. Once we got into New Mexico we got a better blend.


12 posted on 10/19/2023 2:54:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Gaza delenda est)
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I live near Needles ca.
I was thinking I would trip on over to commie land to see how it is


13 posted on 10/19/2023 3:41:35 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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To: eyeamok

The same in Golden Valley


14 posted on 10/19/2023 3:42:56 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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To: AirForceVet1988

I began using ethanol free fuel, I don’t know what it will do for my mileage, but it sure makes my pressure washer, lawn mower, leaf blower and weed whackers run better. Plus, I don’t have to clean the carburetors in the spring.


15 posted on 10/19/2023 4:22:53 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: AirForceVet1988

Saw regular unleaded here in central Texas at a Valero/CircleK for $2.39.
My sister in CA just paid $5.85 but thinks Texas is backwards LOL


16 posted on 10/19/2023 6:17:24 PM PDT by Skid289 (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. )
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To: AirForceVet1988

$3.25 where I am in Virginia.


17 posted on 10/20/2023 4:40:32 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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