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Erdogan says Hamas not terrorists but ‘mujahideen defending their lands,’ cancels Israel trip
Times of Israel ^ | 10/25/2023 | Lazar Berman

Posted on 10/25/2023 3:13:03 AM PDT by fruser1

Speaking to a gathering of his AK party faction in parliament, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says that Israel “can view Hamas as a terrorist organization along with the West. The West owes you a lot. But Turkey does not owe you anything.”

“Hamas is not a terrorist organization, it is a group of mujahideen defending their lands,” he says to a standing ovation.

Erdogan also says he is canceling plans to visit Israel because of its “inhumane” war.

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TOPICS: Egypt; Iran; Israel; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armenia; azerbaijan; egypt; erdogan; gaza; hamas; iran; islam; israel; jordan; kurdistan; lebanon; malaysia; mujahideen; putin; receptayyiperdogan; russia; syria; turkey; waronterror
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Turkey has always been a dubious ally. The only reason to keep them around is the Bosporus Strait and the Incirlik air base.

Maybe we should just take that part and get rid of these guys.

1 posted on 10/25/2023 3:13:03 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

“The West owes you a lot. But Turkey does not owe you anything.”
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“The West” owes Muslims NOTHING!


2 posted on 10/25/2023 3:21:01 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MA)
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To: fruser1

This cockroach thinks Kurds are terrorists though. And unlike the Arab interlopers in Gaza and Judea and Samaria, actually predate the Turks.


3 posted on 10/25/2023 3:21:40 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: fruser1

Erdogan is pure evil. As was the Ottoman Empire he wants to resurrect.

For a long time, I have thought the Kemalists might remove him. In prior times they would have already done that with malice.

Note: the Kemalists are not Islamists, but they still call themselves Muslims. Many of them are Atheists, it is said that Kemal was.

Turkey today is the place of refuge for the remnants of The Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS. Discussion need not go further.


4 posted on 10/25/2023 3:21:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: All

Hamas targets Tel Aviv.

5 posted on 10/25/2023 3:22:30 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: fruser1

The Sick Man of Europe is back !!!


6 posted on 10/25/2023 3:32:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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moslems are moslems. The civilized world recognizes moslems, communists and nazis by their actions. Some people cannot be rehabilitated to live in Freedom within a civilized society instead the Freedom of the civilized society must be sacrificed instead to bring forth chaos, death and ruin for the sake of moslems, communists and nazis. Two wolves and a lamb. I think I know where my FRiends stand but to Be Safe I’ll verify.


7 posted on 10/25/2023 3:33:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: fruser1

Erdogen is a buttinski. He needs to cool his jets.


8 posted on 10/25/2023 3:36:03 AM PDT by NautiNurse (His name is Mudd. Mudd Gaetz. )
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To: Texas Fossil
As was the Ottoman Empire he wants to resurrect.

Turkey will rule over the Arabs again? They can't even get control of the Kurds.

9 posted on 10/25/2023 3:40:11 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: fruser1

“Defending their lands” in this case means invading other lands and attacking people for no reason other than to murder them.


10 posted on 10/25/2023 3:41:54 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: fruser1

Erdogan lies.


11 posted on 10/25/2023 3:48:27 AM PDT by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

You forgot the balance of the pirates creed:

To rape, plunder and kill

That is the history of Islam.

Bush’s “religion of peace “. Stupid bush isn’t even aware that Islam spread by the sword. Over the history of the world, Islam’s imperialist expansion has been responsible for the deaths of over 250 million.

So much for Bush’s religion of peace.


12 posted on 10/25/2023 3:59:03 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff )
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And to enslave. There is still rampant slavery in the Mid East and Africa, thanks to the religion of peace.


13 posted on 10/25/2023 4:05:14 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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““Hamas is not a terrorist organization, it is a group of mujahideen defending their lands,” he says to a standing ovation.”

In a lot of ways he’s right with this. When Hamas took over Gaza in 2007, they were voted in by the people of the area. They didn’t just come in and conquer.

Decisions on how a person wants to run his/her life is the foundation of democracy and has been the mainstay practice for the US since the writing and ratification of the Constitution in 1789. It’s when we stray from this that we have problems.

But by using this freedom we also place ourselves into the responsibility of how our nation runs. If we vote in people who are going to cause death and pain to the citizens, then that is the citizens’ responsibility as much as the people voted in.

So what is really in Gaza is a group of people placed in charge and the citizenry putting and keeping them in charge that do so allowing those people to take those life decision away at whim. So is Hamas to blame. Not any more than the citizens that are effected in the region.

If he was still alive, would you hire Al Capone to run all your decisions? The Gaza citizens did. So if they get killed by Israel they are not collateral damage, they are a major part of the reason the damage was accomplished.

So like in a movie, “Who’s the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?

wy69


14 posted on 10/25/2023 4:18:43 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: fruser1

Yeah, right. Fine, then all members of Islamic Cult are simply evil murderers or supporters. Evil is evil.


15 posted on 10/25/2023 4:20:14 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

True, true, true.

It seems our leaders are totally ignorant of history with the exception of Obama. The devious evil prick knows his full intent for America. Biden is just taking directives from Obama.

Other than that, we can blame failed, ignorant and corrupt leadership for the demise of America.

And the placement of the zebra Marxist muslim into the presidents chair.


16 posted on 10/25/2023 4:21:28 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff )
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Maybe we should just take that part and get rid of these guys.

The left loves to denounce the U.S. as a “colonialist” “empire.” Well, trying to make everyone happy certainly hasn’t worked, so maybe we should just act like the empire everyone thinks we are and take what we want, especially from Islamist scum like those running Turkey.

17 posted on 10/25/2023 4:23:49 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Israel “ is their land according to them. All their “mission statements “ state destruction of Israel and death of Jews is their goal, like mein kampf, ignore their own words at your own peril

The bastardized history of the region that is taught and promoted on almost all media, no wonder so many are against Israel and think Islam is a religion of peace. Peace to Islam is to rule the world and death to all who don’t submit(also the Muslim definition of peace)


18 posted on 10/25/2023 4:28:17 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: whitney69

Dude, you cannot try to rationalize democracy in the turd world context.
The developed western world has over 2000 years of the development of philosophy and infrastructure.

For the turd world, democracy to them means basically one man, one vote.


19 posted on 10/25/2023 4:28:21 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff )
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To: whitney69

True, and that was the last election held in Gaza so nearly 20 years without an election is “democracy”?


20 posted on 10/25/2023 4:29:32 AM PDT by blitz128
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