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Exhausted and disappointed with allies, Ukraine’s president and military chief warn of long attritional war
CNN ^ | November 3, 2023 | Tim Lister

Posted on 11/03/2023 6:09:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

Two articles published this week give a stark assessment of Ukraine’s prospects in its war with Russia. One – by the commander in chief of the Ukrainian military – admits the battlefield has reached a stalemate and a long attritional war benefiting Moscow beckons. The other portrays Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as exhausted by the constant effort to cajole and persuade allies to keep the faith.

Ukraine’s military chief, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, says in a long essay and interview with the Economist that “just like in the First World War we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate.”

He acknowledges: “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” but instead an equilibrium of devastating losses and destruction.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreignaid; ukehomonazi; ukraine
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Not to worry, the Spring 2023 push from the rear will start when the Russians least expect it, New Year's Eve.
1 posted on 11/03/2023 6:09:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Systemic corruption has consequences.


2 posted on 11/03/2023 6:12:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Navy Patriot

>> Ukraine’s military chief, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny... acknowledges: “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” but instead an equilibrium of devastating losses and destruction.

... and a deep everlasting demand for more U.$. Benjamin$ for their $wi$$ bank account$.


3 posted on 11/03/2023 6:13:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Can we FINALLY admit this is a proxy war with the US hiding behind the Ukraine flag?


4 posted on 11/03/2023 6:18:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course it is and more people than ever want us to stop it.


5 posted on 11/03/2023 6:20:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Navy Patriot

They are lying about a ‘stalemate’ because Russia is not trying to take land, but is working to destroy the Ukrainian military. So you don’t see much movement, just a lot of dying in place. They will run out of soldiers before Russia does. This is the Ukraine’s death spiral and it takes forever, as the country throws its men into no win situations.


6 posted on 11/03/2023 6:23:04 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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The US’ mounting debt problems are ignored while taxpayers are continually forced
to underwrite tens of billions of tax dollars to Ukraine and Israel to defend themselves.

Somebody needs to explain why it is Biden and Congress’ first reaction to every
crisis is to borrow or print money that generations not yet born get saddled with.


7 posted on 11/03/2023 6:36:21 PM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Navy Patriot
When you lose CNN....

⚠️HOLY SH8T⚠️

Someone pinch me, because @CNN with a STELLAR segment on the situation in Ukraine!

They admit the counter offensive failed, that Ukraine has no path to victory, and they brought receipts on Kirby, Miller, and Blinken!

WHAT IS HAPPENING?!pic.twitter.com/mfAZiq98PC— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) November 4, 2023


8 posted on 11/03/2023 6:39:34 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Navy Patriot

Zelensky will lose to Putin.
We’re already at the point where Americans are tired of paying for this proxy war, and most folks I talk to are fairly convinced that billions of taxpayer dollars have disappeared down a bottomless rat hole, never to be recovered.
As soon as the US stops propping up Zelensky and the money flow dries up, Putin wins.
The truth is that without a clear cut, overwhelming early victory on the part of Ukraine, this war was over before it started. Except of course, for the stealing of US taxpayer money.
Ukraine will not survive a war of attrition, and even if Putin dies in the near future, whatever Russian leader that pops up will continue what Putin has started.


9 posted on 11/03/2023 7:02:36 PM PDT by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: Navy Patriot

Cease fire and negotiate a peace treaty. The current battle lines made permanent would probably work.


10 posted on 11/03/2023 7:09:04 PM PDT by elpadre (rattle snakes)
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To: dforest

It would be nice if Europeans weren’t killing each other. There’re not enough Europeans to begin with. It’s time to stop.


11 posted on 11/03/2023 7:10:58 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s time to kill Putin.


12 posted on 11/03/2023 7:16:53 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Ukraine’s president and military chief

How much of US taxpayer loot do these two have squirreled away in money and villas in Western Europe?

13 posted on 11/03/2023 7:17:10 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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A long, attritional war was always the kind Ukraine was sure to lose.

Unconditional surrender or an ever shrinking country are the choices for Ukraine.

14 posted on 11/03/2023 7:23:04 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MeganC
How is our bet working, Megan? Are you going to concede you've already lost?

And, you want to kill Putin and start a hot war with Russia? You and your ilk are consumed with hatred, bitterness and jealousy of both Putin and Russia.

15 posted on 11/03/2023 7:25:20 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
You and your ilk are consumed with hatred, bitterness and jealousy of both Putin and Russia.

The has become even more evident in the last few days.

16 posted on 11/03/2023 7:47:50 PM PDT by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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To: Kazan

2/29/2024

And yes, putting an end to Putin and Russia is worth it. Damn them to hell.


17 posted on 11/03/2023 7:47:57 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Navy Patriot

Is he disappointed enough to return the $75 BILLION, our oil reserves and supplies so we can maybe, just maybe, protect US soil soon?


18 posted on 11/03/2023 7:53:48 PM PDT by bgill
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And yes, putting an end to Putin and Russia is worth it. Damn them to hell.

You have the same mentality that an Hamas member has toward Israel.

Would you sacrifice yourself as suicide bomber to kill Putin?

19 posted on 11/03/2023 8:21:10 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

“You have the same mentality that an Hamas member has toward Israel.”
______________________________________________________________
They’re mental cases. This is a classic example of their warped thought processes:

“To: Travis McGee
I would rather the world end in nuclear war than yield to Little Pukin.

15 posted on 10/12/2022, 6:02:03 AM by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4099982/posts?page=15#15


20 posted on 11/03/2023 8:28:05 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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