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To: CodeToad

CO2 and water vapor prevent the outward radiation of heat from the earth in the same way class traps heat in a green house. Therefore the CO2 and moisture in the air are green house gasses.

That is the big but plausible lie


6 posted on 11/06/2023 6:59:49 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert

“CO2 and water vapor prevent the outward radiation of heat from the earth in the same way class traps heat in a green house.”

True. When the air is humid, the night is warmer.


18 posted on 11/06/2023 7:09:56 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: bert

Let’s be honest here. No one says the greenhouse effect operates ‘in the same way glass traps heat in a greenhouse.” The term “greenhouse effect” is purely metaphorical. It is a real thing, btw, but will not lead to the catastrophic scenarios being sold by the media for political purposes.


29 posted on 11/06/2023 7:27:58 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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To: bert

“ CO2 and water vapor prevent the outward radiation of heat from the earth in the same way class traps heat in a green house. Therefore the CO2 and moisture in the air are green house gasses.

That is the big but plausible lie”
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Water vapor in the atmosphere will help retain (actually, it simply slows heat loss) atmospheric heat. Anyone who has spent anytime in a dry desert knows that the ambient air temperature plunges quickly at night with the absence of atmospheric humidity, CO2 is nothing compared to water vapor.


31 posted on 11/06/2023 7:33:10 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MA)
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To: bert

Cloud cover keeps the surface of the earth relatively cool by reflecting solar irradiation, that would warm the earth’s surface up if it got through, back into space.

Certain types of radiation from space nucleate clouds on earth by creating cascading collisions among molecules of gas high in the atmosphere. To the extent such radiation is deflected away from earth, we get less cloud cover, and average temperatures rise. To the extent such radiation is not deflected but is instead allowed to strike the earth’s atmosphere unimpeded, we get more cloud cover, and average temperatures drop.

In this regard, once again, the behavior of the sun determined which way we go, in terms of lesser or greater average amounts of cloud cover.

A more active sun from an electromagnetic perspective (the shorthand version of this is: gobs and gobs of sunspots before, during and after Solar Maximum), tends to extend its protection around earth more forcefully and consistently, thereby deflecting relatively more of the cloud-nucleating space rays, thereby decreasing the average extent and persistence of atmospheric cloud cover, thereby increasing average surface temperature.

The opposite is also observed.

A less active sun, from an electromagnetic perspective (the shorthand version of this is: a relative paucity of sunspots before, during and after Solar Maximum) tends to withdraw its protection around earth, or make it less consistent,, thereby deflecting relatively fewer of the cloud-nucleating space rays, thereby increasing the average extent and persistence of atmospheric cloud cover, thereby decreasing average surface temperature.

Yes, this knowledge and the research that produced it is actively being suppressed.


39 posted on 11/06/2023 7:56:55 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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