Posted on 11/16/2023 7:01:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Before creating another “Palestinian state,” let’s consider its chance of success.
We’ve had several different Arab states in and around Palestine. All failed, some disastrously.
Will yet another Palestinian state envisioned by Anthony Blinken or some think tank become just one more “failed state,” indeed a state destined to fail?
Yasser Arafat’s PLO operates a corrupt and failing state-in-waiting on Israel’s eastern flank, in an area commonly called “the West Bank.” It has failed in everything but terror for 30 years.
Well-meaning Israeli leftists, backed by well-meaning U.S. think-tanks and State Department officials, believed Arafat and the PLO had become “moderates.” They gave them Gaza and the West Bank, offering them a ready-made Palestinian state.
The PLO-Israel agreements of 1993-95 -- were meant to bring an era of peace. Instead, they brought an era of terror: 2,000 Israelis were murdered in less than a decade.
From Day One, the PLO violated all pacts with Israel, smuggled weapons, staged terror attacks.
Arafat’s successor, Mahmoud Abbas, pretends to be “moderate,” as he pays bonuses to terrorists who attack Israel, including Hamas terrorists in Gaza.
Some naïve Westerners suggest a few Arab states should run Gaza, maybe the West Bank, too. History suggests that option would fail, as it failed in the past.
Jordan is already a sort of a fiction, a “trans” state with identity problems. Most “Jordanians” identify as Palestinians. Jordan is already scared of Palestinians and does not want any more. The same is true of Egypt. They know why.
Jordan ruled the West Bank from 1949-1967 as Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Both areas, meant to be Arab Palestine, were treated harshly, not given independence.
Strangely, nobody demanded “freeing Palestine” from occupiers “from the river to the sea.”
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
WHAT WAS THEIR RECORD WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE TO ESTABLISH A PLACE TO SETTLE?
* The PLO ripped apart Jordan in 1969-70, trying to erect a PLO state in Amman. King Hussein defeated the PLO and saved his country, evicting the terrorists. They went to Lebanon, where they ignited a civil war and built another Palestinian terror state headquartered in Beirut.
* In another “peace move” heralded by Israeli leftists, Ariel Sharon evicted Israel’s tiny civilian population from Gaza in 2005. Peace never came. Arab terror skyrocketed. Literally.
* Putting Hamas on the ballot was a well-meaning peace move pushed by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. There have been no elections in Gaza since, and also none in PLO-run territory.
Let’s be honest ( I know, that’s a word that cannot be ascribed to the left, but let’s try one more time ):
A successful nation-state requires a unifying national idea, a history, and an operational plan that is a vision of a hopeful national future. Palestine is a fiction. Palestine is a foreign word in Arabic, and it never appears in the Quran.
The Palestinian Cause (Al-Qadiyya Al-Filastiniyya in Arabic) was never a coherent Idea. “Palestine” was an artificial symbol for Arab League summits, a Pan-Arab banner under which Arab states pretended to be unified.
Palestine was never conceived as a positive vision but as a vision to TOTALLY DESTROY Israel.
It seems like it has been a defacto state, for the last decade or so. But what did Hamas do as leader of “Palestine”.
They spent all their time and effort building tunnels and infrastructure with one goal. The elimination of Israel.
Stone age cultures next to first world counties don’t work. Why? Becuase the stone age culture will blame the first world democracy for their problems.
It’s human nature.
The best solution if for all parties involved to find land surrounded by Muslim cultures and everyone chip in enough to buy ‘the country’ . Cheaper than World War III and hundreds of billions of dead citizens.
Let Jordan and Lebanon take them in.
“Hamas Covenant 1988”
“The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that.”
“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
This so called “Palestine” needs to be absconded and vanquished, along with any further nonsense about a “two state solution”. They had their chance and built nothing but tunnels and hate, especially among their children by the whore mothers. On 9/11/21, Arafat panicked and immediately offered to donate blood to New Yorkers as to be sure he and his monkeys weren’t to be blamed for the attacks, a sign of a guilty soul for all the other horrors they were perpetuating.
From the river to the sea, cleanse Israel of scum and villany! Then, focus on the next Muslim state enemy...
Hundreds of billions of dead citizens? Not likely, since the entire population of Earth is just over eight billion.
Arab Wakanda sucks.
“Let Jordan and Lebanon take them in.”
Nah, too close to Israel’s borders. Ship ‘em off to Sudan, Libya or Algeria instead.
Drivel from a historical point of view that is no longer valid.
Palestinian authority will be trashed and replaced with a new government developed by the leaders of thye Abrams accord including several Arab states.
OMG I thought I had typed hundreds of millions. Big mistake on my part. Thanks for catching it... And yeah, I do know there’s not hundreds of billions of people on the earth. (hanging head in shame for being an idiot)
But what did Hamas do as leader of “Palestine”.
Correct.
They had so many opportunities and money to do something to better the Gaza Strip. Ag-business, light manufacturing, resorts on the Mediterranean, etc. They could have built sufficient infrastructure, etc. as well.
No worries. Typos happen, post #7 being another case in point. Let’s see who spots that one.
“Palestine” produces NOTHING at all. They live off the huge and continuing largesse of western countries which is used only for tunnels, arms and military training. They are JUST like the multi-generational welfare people who infest our cities: produce nothing, do not better yourself, live off a juicy teat, and complain that your woes are because of somebody else.
The moslems there are steeped from birth in 1) eliminate Israel and 2) exterminate all Jews.
How will that vile brew ever succeed?
0/11/2001
RE: Palestinian authority will be trashed and replaced with a new government developed by the leaders of the Abrams accord including several Arab states.
It’s the ABRAHAM Accords, not the Abrams ( as in the battle tank ). Some questions:
1. How will the Palestinian Authority be trashed?
2. Will Iran via the Hezbollah and the Houthis allow this to happen to their proxy?
RE: Let Jordan and Lebanon take them in.
They tried before. Based on what happened in the past, it ain’t gonna happen again. Both countries have learned their lessons.
“Well-meaning Israeli leftists, backed by well-meaning U.S. think-tanks and State Department officials..”
None of those people are “well meaning”. Especially not the US Department of State.
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