Heating Homes With Natural Gas Is More Than 40 Percent Cheaper Than Electricity: US EIA

Epoch Times ^ | 11/13/2023 | Naveen Athrappully

[Mr. Lucky]

Heating with wood is 100% cheaper.

[sasquatch]

KGO runs 50KW (daytime) and 5KW at night.

[TexasGator]

“Theirs were the FIRST homes to have a/c cut off, during the “historic” heat wave, IIRC.”

They weren’t cut off. They were reset to a higher temperature.

[Jane Long]

Locked out = turned off, govt tool …..they weren’t able to control THEIR OWN THERMOSTATS….

Colorado utility company locks 22,000 thermostats in 90 degree weather due to ‘energy emergency’

…. Thousands of utility company customers in Colorado were locked out of changing their thermostats due to an “energy emergency,” sparking outrage that spilled onto social media.

Xcel Energy, a utility company based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, confirmed that 22,000 customers in the Denver, Colorado area who were signed up for the Colorado AC Rewards program were locked out of their thermostats for several hours on Tuesday, KMGH-TV reported.

Tony Talarico, an Xcel Energy customer in Arvada, Colorado, told KMGH-TV that he attempted to turn up the air conditioning as temperatures creeped into the 90s on Tuesday but was greeted with a message from this thermostat declaring an “energy emergency” and prevented from turning the …

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/colorado-utility-company-locks-22000-thermostats-in-90-degree-weather-due-energy-emergency

But, you WOULD defend the leftists, AGAIN, “Texas” gator.

🙃

[TexasGator]

“Locked out = turned off”

No. The thermostats and A/C were not turned off. Both were still operating.

[Bob434]

Yup- good point- that and snowbirds likely skews the average downward

[TexasGator]

Per your link the thermostats were reset to 78. A while back my A/C failed.

We noticed that we were not getting uncomfortable till temperatures starting going above 80.

Here, if outdoor temperature is 78 we consider it to be a cool day.

[old-ager]

Of course it is. You hardly need any heat.

But if you did, you should consider having a stored backup energy source for heating. Something more, and cheaper than, an $80,000 92 kilowatt-hour truck. Perhaps a few 20 pound propane tanks.

[mass55th]

I never owned a home, and raised my two sons in apartments (top or bottom half of a house), or home rentals over those years. My kids are in their 50's now. The majority of the places we lived in were heated with natural gas, a couple places had radiator heating, another required oil delivery. I never had an issue paying for my own utilities, and paying for them on time. One year, back in mid 90's, I moved into an apartment complex that had baseboard electric heating. Each apartment had its own electric water heater. Niagara Mohawk was the area utility at the time. I went on their budget program, because I'd never lived in a place that had electric heating before, but had heard it was more costly. I paid the budget amount they had quoted me on time, every month. During the year I lived in the place, they never adjusted the budget amount. When I moved out, and got my final bill, they said I owed $500. I called and complained, but was still required to pay the full amount. That was the first and last time I ever used a budget with a utility company. And I vowed I would never live in another apartment that had electric heating.

The apartment I've been in for the past 23 years has natural gas. The furnace is in the walk-in bedroom closet. It is a combo furnace that is connected to a central air unit. My bill last month was $102.00. That includes gas and electric, along with whatever fees and taxes are added.

[old-ager]

> What’s bad is the Dims have done their best to make natural gas expensive too

That’s right. Around here it has about doubled.

[Jane Long]

Sure, G plant.

Whatever you say.

😂😂

[TexasGator]

“But if you did, you should consider having a stored backup energy source for heating. Something more, and cheaper than, an $80,000 92 kilowatt-hour truck. Perhaps a few 20 pound propane tanks.”

I have a NG stove, NG water heater, NG outdoor connection, a multi-fuel generator, gas grill and three propane tanks and a hot wife!

[TexasGator]

Be civil.

[KC_for_Freedom]

With you on that— installed a wood stove in Santa Clara CA and the house was generally overheated when it was burning. Always had hot water for tea.

Wood heat was much more comfy as well.

[old-ager]

> I have a NG stove, NG water heater, NG outdoor connection, a multi-fuel generator, gas grill and three propane tanks and a hot wife!

Good going. Enjoy!

[Bob434]

We had a big wood furnace in the cellar- it woudl get smokin hot sometimes- and we would have to open windows upstairs in the dead of winter just to regulate the heat lol-

And yup- wood heat is comforting- just something about it- would come in from working outdoors on 1-20 below 0 days and stand by the fire for a bit and get warmed to the bones in a hurry- that with a nice warm bowl of soup and a coffee really hit the spot-

[meyer]

This is particularly true up north, where winters are very cold. In the south, where the winters are much milder. If I recall and it’s been a number of years since I studied such things, the typical heat pump really starts losing its competitive edge below freezing, and around the mid 20s, it requires more energy than it saves to self-defrost and still provide heat.

I’m speaking of air-to-air heat pumps. Geothermal is another story, though a much higher installation cost.

Gas furnaces put out some nice, warm heat, and are relatively economical to build and maintain. And I say this as one that works in the electric power industry.

[Jane Long]

🙃

You’re not even supposed to be posting to me.

Please be civil and respect that.

[usurper]

Electricity now is natural gas piped through wires

Or coal.

[meyer]

Nothing that can’t be remedied with a screwdriver, a spare old-style thermostat, a little electrical knowledge, and about 20 minutes. Though I concede that very few people could swap out a thermostat these days, even a simple “heat-only” one.